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> These days though, a more popular idea seem to be to piggy back onto GNSS signals, which are also broadly available (no idea how well they compare in practice
by mschuster91 2y ago
> These days though, a more popular idea seem to be to piggy back onto GNSS signals, which are also broadly available (no idea how well they compare in practice to low frequency time beacons), and for which importantly many mobile devices already have a receiver built-in
GPS chips are very very power intensive as the compute power involved to decode a signal out of something that would normally be way below the noise threshold is still very high, despite some two decades worth of optimization. And they're pretty useless outside of direct line of sight towards the sky.
> In fact, I can't imagine many events other than weather (which is usually localized) that warrant such a low-entropy signal on a nationwide basis, and everything I can imagine has very limited actionability. ("Asteroid inbound, prepare to hide in the basement for a few thousand years"?)
It's a trigger signal for a low-power receiver that can then turn on a higher-bandwidth (and thus, higher power) device to detect what is actually going on. Say you're a country at war like Ukraine - have the "emergency bit" on nationwide during Russian air raids so that receivers can listen for area-specific signals and blare horns if affected.
No matter what, we have to prepare for war, and that includes having robust technology that is hard to take out on the sender side (which cellphone stations aren't, they're easy targets in a cyber war!) and, most importantly, can be stored in everyone's garden shed and live on a single battery for years.
- meindnoch 2y ago>Say you're a country at war like Ukraine - have the "emergency bit" on nationwide during Russian air raids so that receivers can listen for area-specific signals and blare horns if affected. And what would prevent Russia from continuously broadcasting this emergency bit to cause chaos?
- mschuster91 2y ago> And what would prevent Russia from continuously broadcasting this emergency bit to cause chaos? So what, all that would do in my scenario is drain the batteries of the civilian populations' alarms a bit faster as they'd keep their more power-intensive CPU awake.