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Right, the malware will only able to get all the documents you wrote during the years of using the computer, all the emails you ever got or sent, all your chat
by lostmsu 2y ago
Right, the malware will only able to get all the documents you wrote during the years of using the computer, all the emails you ever got or sent, all your chat conversations, your bank account details, photos and videos you made, complete browsing history, access to your work account(s).
Of course it is critical that it does not also know what porn you watched in incognito, or what you had in snapchat messages.
Wait, scratch the snapchat. I don't think they have desktop client.
- eviks 2y agoYou ignore this basic computer operation called delete
- lostmsu 2y agoMajority of people only ever delete bad shots from a set of N identical photos or random stuff by accident or because they run out of space.
- eviks 2y agoWhy do you think it makes sense to only care about the majority? Also, majority is using voice/video calls which aren't stored anywhere
- lostmsu 2y agoDo I? How did you come to this conclusion? If majority wants to use Ctrl+C to copy, and the rest want to use Alt+M or don't care either way, then the most sensible thing to do is have Ctrl+C copy by default, and make a setting for the rest, which is exactly what is done here.
- eviks 2y agoBecause you reference the behavior of the majority as a counter-argument. So if 40% of people use delete for more than a dupe photo and thus would benefit from this even if they were hacked (vs Recall), how does the fact that the majority doesn't do that counter the benefit for this non-majority group? If you only care about the majority, this makes sense
- lostmsu 2y agoYour reply reads like you completely ignored the previous comment, because it basically answers all questions/addresses points you posed in this one.
- eviks 2y agoYour analogy is wrong in both characterizing the problem and offering a solution: 1. The majority doesn't want this just because they fail to protect their data properly 2. Defaults matter and having an option doesn't imply perfect awareness/disabling by that non-majority group So at most you've somewhat reduced the affected group while still not addressing the original issue why you think it's ok to ignore the non-majority (It also doesn't address the video calls) So no, your comment answered none of my points
- lostmsu 2y ago1 basically contradicts the whole premise from 6 or so levels above that for majority this does not present any additional risks to their data, because they never delete it anyway. 2 addressed above "ignoring" non-majirity addressed in Ctrl+C comment.
- eviks 2y ago1. was about a different flaw in your argument, not 6 above. That one is also wrong, see X levels above re video calls which you don't need to explicitly delete for them to disappear from malware's view without Recall 2 addresses above, including Ctrl+C, so you need something new to address it
- lostmsu 2y agoThere are a number of things that do disappear. But when you put them in the line next to bank credentials, private pictures, passwords, and private documents, they pale in comparison. Re: awareness. Are you saying the only MS problem is they are not marketing capabilities enough? Assuming the video calls point is addressed, your whole "feature is extremely bad" argument is that it is on by default, and one has to know to do something to turn it off if they don't want it?