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I think you're onto something. My take away is that you talking about elite overproduction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction https://en.wikipe

I think you're onto something. My take away is that you talking about elite overproduction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction). FTA: Elite overproduction is a concept developed by Peter Turchin that describes the condition of a society that is producing too many potential elite members relative to its ability to absorb them into the power structure.[1][2][3] This, he hypothesizes, is a cause for social instability, as those left out of power feel aggrieved by their relatively low socioeconomic status.[1][2][3] --- The nonviolent unwinding of elite overproduction apparently happened in the 50s and 60s with strong labor unions improving the financial well-being of laborers and high taxes on the very well-to-do recycling their excess wealth back into society. I look at the current shift towards trades as another form of reversing the access number of elites. IMO, It's worth spending some time contemplating this concept and its potential application to society today. ----- Side note: every time I say or hear the phrase elite overproduction, I think of Bertie Wooster and the Drones club. You're welcome.

matrix87 2y ago
for some reason in this culture, people think that working in an office, having a degree, living in a big metro area, etc makes them "elite". nobody ever called these people "elite" except themselves
- chiefalchemist 2y ago
  That's part of the overproduction process, isn't it? That is, those at the top have those in the middle and midddle-top believing they're on the inside. Nah. They're the suckers. They're the exploited. They're where the wealth is being extracted from. Given human biases and blind spots, no one in that positions wants to admit they've been played. Geez, look at the article. Written by a leftie for The Left and "blaming" The Right when in fact The Right has it right. That is, "we're done being suckered."
  - matrix87 2y ago
    the author isn't left... > Conservatism and participation in its core institutions - marriage, church, and the military - are associated with better mental health also anyone who's trying to argue that widespread educational attainment is bad for society deserves to be laughed at
    - chiefalchemist 2y ago
      I sit corrected on the author. I should have said "entitled elite" ( which spans political ideology). That aside... Anyone who believes a degree === education deserves to be made a sucker. Anyone who believes a degree === the ability to string thoughts together deserves to be laughed at. Look around, we HAVE increased the ubiquity of structured education and yet we keep enlisting students who can't figure out their career doesn't pay enough to cover their excessive loans at their "I MUST go there" over-rated private college / edu. Left or right, the overproduction system is fueled by such suckers.

matrix87 2y ago

for some reason in this culture, people think that working in an office, having a degree, living in a big metro area, etc makes them "elite". nobody ever called these people "elite" except themselves

chiefalchemist 2y ago
That's part of the overproduction process, isn't it? That is, those at the top have those in the middle and midddle-top believing they're on the inside. Nah. They're the suckers. They're the exploited. They're where the wealth is being extracted from. Given human biases and blind spots, no one in that positions wants to admit they've been played. Geez, look at the article. Written by a leftie for The Left and "blaming" The Right when in fact The Right has it right. That is, "we're done being suckered."
- matrix87 2y ago
  the author isn't left... > Conservatism and participation in its core institutions - marriage, church, and the military - are associated with better mental health also anyone who's trying to argue that widespread educational attainment is bad for society deserves to be laughed at
  - chiefalchemist 2y ago
    I sit corrected on the author. I should have said "entitled elite" ( which spans political ideology). That aside... Anyone who believes a degree === education deserves to be made a sucker. Anyone who believes a degree === the ability to string thoughts together deserves to be laughed at. Look around, we HAVE increased the ubiquity of structured education and yet we keep enlisting students who can't figure out their career doesn't pay enough to cover their excessive loans at their "I MUST go there" over-rated private college / edu. Left or right, the overproduction system is fueled by such suckers.