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keeping track of their child while the child was very young You keep avoiding saying location tracking. Are you seriously talking about location tracking an ad

keeping track of their child while the child was very young You keep avoiding saying location tracking. Are you seriously talking about location tracking an adult in their 30s? Say it directly. Are you saying this happens with knowledge or without? With consent or without? Are you saying parents are putting live location trackers on their 30 year old children's owned phones? Why do you keep ignoring the actual point and saying abstract irrelevant things like 'parents want to keep track of their children' ? Address the actual point and show some evidence.

teddyh 2y ago
(Please keep this conversation about the topic and less about what you evidently consider some sort of personal conflict.) > You keep avoiding saying location tracking. Are you seriously talking about location tracking an adult in their 30s? Say it directly. Yes, of course. I did not intend to be obscure. > Are you saying this happens with knowledge or without? With consent or without? Are you saying parents are putting live location trackers on their 30 year old children's owned phones? I’m saying that parents will probably keep location trackers on their kids’ phones, and never get out of the habit of installing them, regardless of how their child ages into adulthood. Show me a parent who had such a tracker installed in a child’s phone, but go out of their way to make an effort to uninstall it the day the child turns 18, and I will show you a rare parent indeed. With or without knowledge and/or consent? Of course without their child’s consent; the parents originally put the tracker in the child’s phone without consent, and so the habit will continue. They key word in all of this is habit; parents acquire habits about their kids, and will continue to follow these habits regardless. The same goes for knowledge; if the child originally was always told about the tracking, this will continue, but if the child was never informed, this will also continue. Parents, like all people, are creatures of habit, and will not easily change their ways and opinions, even though time passes, things change, and children grow up. > Why do you keep ignoring the actual point and saying abstract irrelevant things like 'parents want to keep track of their children'? You are quoting something I did not write, and I can therefore not answer this question. > Address the actual point and show some evidence. If you think I am ignoring the point, please state what you would like the point to be, and I will comment on it as proper in this forum. Contrary to what you seem to believe, I am not trying to be obtuse. Regarding evidence, I am not aware of any research about any of this.
- CyberDildonics 2y ago
  Regarding evidence, I am not aware of any research about any of this. You don't say. In other words you are making up and hallucinating these vague scenarios. You saying things like 'parents are creatures of habit' is not evidence that these made up things actually happen. This smart watch is being advertised for actual kids. 6-12 year olds. Do you actually think a 30 year old is going to keep using their toy watch for 20 years, stay on their parents phone plans and their parents are going to track their 30 year old child? If you ask 100 people if they think a child is going to keep their toy watch that is made for tracking kids for 20 years and let their parents track them decades into adulthood, they wouldn't just say no, they would look at you like you're speaking a different language. This has never happened and you aren't even close to showing this is something that happens normally because all you keep doing is repeating your claim without evidence.
  - teddyh 2y ago
    > you are making up and hallucinating these vague scenarios You are using very combative and insulting language, which is not helping. > This smart watch is being advertised for actual kids. 6-12 year olds. Do you actually think a 30 year old is going to keep using their toy watch for 20 years, stay on their parents phone plans and their parents are going to track their 30 year old child? No. I was not discussing the watch. I made a comment specifically on your statement about whether a parent, which initially has used location tracking on a child, will keep doing so as the child has reached the age of 30. And my position is that yes, very many parents will do so if they don’t need to alter their habits significantly in order to keep doing it.
    - CyberDildonics 2y ago
      You are using very combative and insulting language, which is not helping. No I'm not. This is something people do when they say things without evidence, they try to attack how the other person is pointing out they have no evidence. If you don't want to be told you're making things up, prove that you're not. You keep repeating the same claims and you haven't shown anything to support that. No. I was not discussing the watch. You might want to look at the title because that's what this thread is about. I made a comment specifically on your statement about whether a parent, which initially has used location tracking on a child, will keep doing so as the child has reached the age of 30. And my position is that yes, very many parents will do so if they don’t need to alter their habits significantly in order to keep doing it. You have definitely made the comment over and over, it's just that it's nonsense and you have zero evidence that it's true. Repeating yourself isn't evidence and rephrasing your claims isn't either. It doesn't even make sense. Why would someone become and adult and never get a new phone so they can keep using what they had when they turned 10 for multiple decades? Who has ever heard of this happening let alone enough that "very many parents do so"? This is not reality. This is like someone saying that bigfoot exists and when someone asks for evidence they just say "what I'm saying is that bigfoot exists".

teddyh 2y ago

(Please keep this conversation about the topic and less about what you evidently consider some sort of personal conflict.) > You keep avoiding saying location tracking. Are you seriously talking about location tracking an adult in their 30s? Say it directly. Yes, of course. I did not intend to be obscure. > Are you saying this happens with knowledge or without? With consent or without? Are you saying parents are putting live location trackers on their 30 year old children's owned phones? I’m saying that parents will probably keep location trackers on their kids’ phones, and never get out of the habit of installing them, regardless of how their child ages into adulthood. Show me a parent who had such a tracker installed in a child’s phone, but go out of their way to make an effort to uninstall it the day the child turns 18, and I will show you a rare parent indeed. With or without knowledge and/or consent? Of course without their child’s consent; the parents originally put the tracker in the child’s phone without consent, and so the habit will continue. They key word in all of this is habit; parents acquire habits about their kids, and will continue to follow these habits regardless. The same goes for knowledge; if the child originally was always told about the tracking, this will continue, but if the child was never informed, this will also continue. Parents, like all people, are creatures of habit, and will not easily change their ways and opinions, even though time passes, things change, and children grow up. > Why do you keep ignoring the actual point and saying abstract irrelevant things like 'parents want to keep track of their children'? You are quoting something I did not write, and I can therefore not answer this question. > Address the actual point and show some evidence. If you think I am ignoring the point, please state what you would like the point to be, and I will comment on it as proper in this forum. Contrary to what you seem to believe, I am not trying to be obtuse. Regarding evidence, I am not aware of any research about any of this.

CyberDildonics 2y ago
Regarding evidence, I am not aware of any research about any of this. You don't say. In other words you are making up and hallucinating these vague scenarios. You saying things like 'parents are creatures of habit' is not evidence that these made up things actually happen. This smart watch is being advertised for actual kids. 6-12 year olds. Do you actually think a 30 year old is going to keep using their toy watch for 20 years, stay on their parents phone plans and their parents are going to track their 30 year old child? If you ask 100 people if they think a child is going to keep their toy watch that is made for tracking kids for 20 years and let their parents track them decades into adulthood, they wouldn't just say no, they would look at you like you're speaking a different language. This has never happened and you aren't even close to showing this is something that happens normally because all you keep doing is repeating your claim without evidence.
- teddyh 2y ago
  > you are making up and hallucinating these vague scenarios You are using very combative and insulting language, which is not helping. > This smart watch is being advertised for actual kids. 6-12 year olds. Do you actually think a 30 year old is going to keep using their toy watch for 20 years, stay on their parents phone plans and their parents are going to track their 30 year old child? No. I was not discussing the watch. I made a comment specifically on your statement about whether a parent, which initially has used location tracking on a child, will keep doing so as the child has reached the age of 30. And my position is that yes, very many parents will do so if they don’t need to alter their habits significantly in order to keep doing it.
  - CyberDildonics 2y ago
    You are using very combative and insulting language, which is not helping. No I'm not. This is something people do when they say things without evidence, they try to attack how the other person is pointing out they have no evidence. If you don't want to be told you're making things up, prove that you're not. You keep repeating the same claims and you haven't shown anything to support that. No. I was not discussing the watch. You might want to look at the title because that's what this thread is about. I made a comment specifically on your statement about whether a parent, which initially has used location tracking on a child, will keep doing so as the child has reached the age of 30. And my position is that yes, very many parents will do so if they don’t need to alter their habits significantly in order to keep doing it. You have definitely made the comment over and over, it's just that it's nonsense and you have zero evidence that it's true. Repeating yourself isn't evidence and rephrasing your claims isn't either. It doesn't even make sense. Why would someone become and adult and never get a new phone so they can keep using what they had when they turned 10 for multiple decades? Who has ever heard of this happening let alone enough that "very many parents do so"? This is not reality. This is like someone saying that bigfoot exists and when someone asks for evidence they just say "what I'm saying is that bigfoot exists".