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But the quoted poster said "dairy", not milk. Lots of dairy has little to no lactose, from butter to cream-cheeses to indeed cream itself (clotted, double, or e

But the quoted poster said "dairy", not milk. Lots of dairy has little to no lactose, from butter to cream-cheeses to indeed cream itself (clotted, double, or even the liquid 30% fat "whipping cream") to yogurts / kefirs, and pretty much all kinds of cheeses too... I can't handle milk either, or anything high-lactose. The above things, though, no prob. I'd guess most of the "lactose-intolerant" will do alright with moderate (non-binge) amounts of such low- (but not no-) lactose foods. Variations of all those are indeed much-loved staples all over the world, whether of the cow or the goat or the sheep (or gazelle? caribou? ruminant species abound!) variety, depending on regional grazing conditions I guess.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
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- lenkite 2y ago
  How "biologically recently" are you talking about ? In India, milk has been there since the first domestication of cattle 8000 years ago. Ancient Indian civilization was built on milk. Not only was it drunk regularly but it was also turned into ghee.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > How "biologically recently" are you talking about ? In India, milk has been there since the first domestication of cattle 8000 years ago 10,000 years. See top comment. North Indian lactase was inherited from the Middle East. (I’m Northern Indian, in large part.) "Staple" has a specific meaning: it's a significant source of calories. For North Indians, this is true of dairy. For India as a whole, it's not true even today [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_milk_consumption_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_milk_cons...
    - lenkite 2y ago
      That list _glaringly_ excludes butter. (Why ? That is so silly). Try adding it back and India will fall into top 5.
      - alan-hn 2y ago
        Right? Which Indians don't eat ghee
- dyauspitr 2y ago
  The entire nation of India has essentially lived on milk for thousands of years. Tribes in East Africa essentially only live on meat, milk and blood. All of Central Asia has always lived on milk from livestock. It’s pretty much everyone other than pre Columbian South Americans and East Asians. Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, the Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Indus Valley civilization etc.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

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lenkite 2y ago
How "biologically recently" are you talking about ? In India, milk has been there since the first domestication of cattle 8000 years ago. Ancient Indian civilization was built on milk. Not only was it drunk regularly but it was also turned into ghee.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > How "biologically recently" are you talking about ? In India, milk has been there since the first domestication of cattle 8000 years ago 10,000 years. See top comment. North Indian lactase was inherited from the Middle East. (I’m Northern Indian, in large part.) "Staple" has a specific meaning: it's a significant source of calories. For North Indians, this is true of dairy. For India as a whole, it's not true even today [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_milk_consumption_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_milk_cons...
  - lenkite 2y ago
    That list _glaringly_ excludes butter. (Why ? That is so silly). Try adding it back and India will fall into top 5.
    - alan-hn 2y ago
      Right? Which Indians don't eat ghee
dyauspitr 2y ago
The entire nation of India has essentially lived on milk for thousands of years. Tribes in East Africa essentially only live on meat, milk and blood. All of Central Asia has always lived on milk from livestock. It’s pretty much everyone other than pre Columbian South Americans and East Asians. Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, the Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Indus Valley civilization etc.