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Ya, and with things like oat milk, most don't even realize they're consuming a cup of processed seed oil (imagine ranch/mayo) in that carton. > massively impor

Ya, and with things like oat milk, most don't even realize they're consuming a cup of processed seed oil (imagine ranch/mayo) in that carton. > massively important staple of advanced societies for thousands of years, and continues to be in places like rural India, Turkey, Central Asia, and more. I also find it interesting how well milk consumption correlates with increased height.[0] All the tallest countries (Montenegro, Netherlands, Sweden) have the highest milk consumption levels. Everyone using protein powder to bulk up for fitness is using milk-based whey protein. We know that malnutrition affects height. Is there any other food or activity that correlates with height as much as milk consumption? [0] https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Correlation-between-average-heights-and-per-capita-milk-consumption-kg-person-yr-in-86_fig3_371602182 https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Correlation-between-aver...

kelipso 2y ago
Around 30% by calories of seed oil in many oat milks. Was so surprised when I discovered this. It's in the ingredients list but they never even hint at this anywhere else.
- mirror_neuron 2y ago
  Count me among those that didn’t realize how much seed oil is used. But is that bad? I don’t have an axe to grind against cow’s milk, but I do have trouble digesting it (and besides, I like the way oat milk tastes). Do I need to be worried about the fact that there’s a lot of seed oil in it?
  - hooverd 2y ago
    Depends on who you ask. Maybe seed oil is the devil and should only be eating beef and butter for health.
  - reducesuffering 2y ago
    Nutrition science is anything but conclusive, however there is some preliminary research indicating seed oils may not be healthy and contribute to obesity. Why are condiments like ranch and mayonnaise unhealthy? Because they're almost entirely seed oils. There is oat milk without any added oils, including Oatly, but you have to specifically look for that version, they're not always easy to find. And it will taste thinner without any fatty component that cows milk has.
  - blargey 2y ago
    "Seed oil" is a broad category, but the most popular (cheap) seed oils would also fall under "ultraprocessed foods". Canola oil in particular is ever-present in the US, and unlike other refined plant oils, requires the ultraprocessing to be considered fit for human consumption (you'll never see extra-virgin canola oil on a grocery shelf). Debates about its safety aside, I don't feel the need to give it the benefit of the doubt when I could just eat something that doesn't contain it, and that something would likely be healthier for many other reasons.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
I drank lots of cow milk as a kid and wound up short because both my parents are short. I'm not too worried about it
dzonga 2y ago
this is what western idealists pretending to be journalists or scientists miss. those of us who grew up in 3rd world countries know -- how much kids grow by drinking milk. and how much when the economy or agriculture goes to shit -- then milk production falls, how much kids tend to be shorter and frail. and yeah it could be milk or milk related products. soy, oat etc that shit ain't milk. compare the nutrional values.

kelipso 2y ago

Around 30% by calories of seed oil in many oat milks. Was so surprised when I discovered this. It's in the ingredients list but they never even hint at this anywhere else.

mirror_neuron 2y ago
Count me among those that didn’t realize how much seed oil is used. But is that bad? I don’t have an axe to grind against cow’s milk, but I do have trouble digesting it (and besides, I like the way oat milk tastes). Do I need to be worried about the fact that there’s a lot of seed oil in it?
- hooverd 2y ago
  Depends on who you ask. Maybe seed oil is the devil and should only be eating beef and butter for health.
- reducesuffering 2y ago
  Nutrition science is anything but conclusive, however there is some preliminary research indicating seed oils may not be healthy and contribute to obesity. Why are condiments like ranch and mayonnaise unhealthy? Because they're almost entirely seed oils. There is oat milk without any added oils, including Oatly, but you have to specifically look for that version, they're not always easy to find. And it will taste thinner without any fatty component that cows milk has.
- blargey 2y ago
  "Seed oil" is a broad category, but the most popular (cheap) seed oils would also fall under "ultraprocessed foods". Canola oil in particular is ever-present in the US, and unlike other refined plant oils, requires the ultraprocessing to be considered fit for human consumption (you'll never see extra-virgin canola oil on a grocery shelf). Debates about its safety aside, I don't feel the need to give it the benefit of the doubt when I could just eat something that doesn't contain it, and that something would likely be healthier for many other reasons.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago

I drank lots of cow milk as a kid and wound up short because both my parents are short. I'm not too worried about it

dzonga 2y ago

this is what western idealists pretending to be journalists or scientists miss. those of us who grew up in 3rd world countries know -- how much kids grow by drinking milk. and how much when the economy or agriculture goes to shit -- then milk production falls, how much kids tend to be shorter and frail. and yeah it could be milk or milk related products. soy, oat etc that shit ain't milk. compare the nutrional values.