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Literally this. One thing both Apple and Windows have that Linux does not is, every software has an easy universal package for their respective platform. For Li
by giancarlostoro 2y ago
Literally this. One thing both Apple and Windows have that Linux does not is, every software has an easy universal package for their respective platform. For Linux if its even in your main package manager its like whatever was "stable" in 2022 or whenever the last major version of Debian / Ubuntu came out, and that's all you get. It's annoying to no end. I now just download AppImage every chance I get.
- throwaway38405 2y ago... sorry, this sounds to good to be true. Usually it works like this (forced to use macOS at work and Windows from time to time for special software): One installs some software from trusted websites (VSCode, VLC, Firefox, etc.) on macOS/Windows, and then when one just wants to get some work done: Update-PopUps, yay. They annoy the hell out of me, especially because there is no unified system for macOS/Windows. Break my flow, wait for download, privilege escalation, installation and starting again. Thank you very much. This happens multiple times a week especially for packages like VSCode, VLC, Office, Outlook, Firefox, KeepassX, Calibre... packages which you don't want to be outdated, ever. It is f*cking ridiculous that I have to take care of this BS in 2024. On my Linux boxes I login and work. Updates have been silently downloaded and installed for the packages and/or flatpaks and everything is up to date, no annoying update-popups which break my flow and I know that I have the latest version of all software especially security sensitive packages. At the end, you can pick your poison. Having integrated/working package management with silent updates is one of my killer features of Linux/Flatpak. I want to set it up one time (automatically) and never have to think about or deal with it again.
- _factor 2y agoWhen combined with Flatseal as an easy to use privilege granting system, it really is hard to beat.
- jbstack 2y agoUnless something has drastically changed since I switched to Linux around 10 years ago, Windows did not at all have a "universal package". Instead, installing software meant manually downloading an installer from the vendor's website and then manually interacting with that installer through a GUI. Windows installers come in a variety of different (even custom written) formats which essentially make it impossible to automate package management in a universal way.
- giancarlostoro 2y agomy biggest point being that Linux package managers carry out of date packages. Unless you want to use arch linux or similar.
- bitwize 2y agoThen point your /etc/apt/sources.list to 'testing'.
- joe200 2y ago@giancarlostoro This is the solution. Use the following web page to compare packages versions from Debian Testing and Fedora 40: https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?firstlist=debian&secondlist=fedora&firstversions=1&secondversions=1&resource=compare-packages&view=major&refresh=Refresh https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?firstlist=debian&secondlis...
- Zetaphor 2y agoStop using Debian based distros, this a deliberate choice on their part. Use a rolling release like Fedora.
- joe200 2y agoUse Debian Testing. This is the _rolling_ release from the Debian family. And don't be fooled by the name of the release: "Testing". The name "Testing" exists due to an orthodox approach of Debian community that only the Debian stable can use "stable".