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> proving they can provide more value with competitive pricing Prove to whom? Since the availability of GPUs is quite constrained (availability of datacenter

by troupo 2y ago

> proving they can provide more value with competitive pricing Prove to whom? Since the availability of GPUs is quite constrained (availability of datacenters and electricity is constrained, too) you won't have many who "can provide more value". Free market has no mechanisms to combat abuse when resources are limited.

loceng 2y ago
Prove to the end consumer - and hopefully not to industrial complexes that may somehow lobby politicians for regulatory capture to give the power to a handful vs. the consumer's "voting" power via their distributed-individual buying power. I highly disagree that the free market has no mechanisms, exhibit A being Elon Musk who had the credibility to rally $44 billion to buy Twitter to take that social media platform out of the hands that the establishment clearly had as a core pillar for their censorship-suppression-narrative control apparatus, of which the Twitter Files exposed the government's illegal suppression of Americans et al for anyone who wasn't toeing the acceptable narrative talking points of the last 3+ years.
- MeImCounting 2y ago
  woof, The conspiracy theories abound in this thread.
  - loceng 2y ago
    Oof, the ad hominem and laziness is abound in this thread. Attack the arguments and not the person by indirectly calling me a conspiracy theorist. Are you even aware of the Twitter Files I referenced, the specifics for what I'm referencing? Here's Matt Taibbi's specific work on the Twitter Files: https://twitterfiles.substack.com/ https://twitterfiles.substack.com/
- troupo 2y ago
  > I highly disagree that the free market has no mechanisms, exhibit A being Elon Musk 1. I didn't say "no mechanisms" in general. Re-read what I wrote 2. Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter doesn't show anything you pretend it shows, it doesn't show the mechanisms I specifically talked about, and since you jumped off of a cliff into deep conspiracy theories, I don't even care what you think it shows. Adieu.
  - loceng 2y ago
    I understood what you wrote. Your logic and interpretation is off, why you don't understand what I said. Thanks for the ad hominem and being too lazy to engage except to tell us that indirectly, clearly "not worth my time" either - so let's say it's mutual - if you're arrogant enough to think the unreferenced "conspiracy theories" I've brought up have no truth or validity to them - you must clearly know better, especially with how much effort you put into things. /sarcasm And if you're referencing the Twitter Files "conspiracy theories" - here you go, enjoy, but I doubt you have the patience to actually "dive" into it, or even bother to lookup the US senate hearings on the issue: https://twitterfiles.substack.com/ https://twitterfiles.substack.com/ - Matt Taibbi's articles on it, one of the journalists Elon Musk gave access to Twitter's data including their staff communications/emails with the FBI et al.

by troupo 2y ago

loceng 2y ago

Prove to the end consumer - and hopefully not to industrial complexes that may somehow lobby politicians for regulatory capture to give the power to a handful vs. the consumer's "voting" power via their distributed-individual buying power. I highly disagree that the free market has no mechanisms, exhibit A being Elon Musk who had the credibility to rally $44 billion to buy Twitter to take that social media platform out of the hands that the establishment clearly had as a core pillar for their censorship-suppression-narrative control apparatus, of which the Twitter Files exposed the government's illegal suppression of Americans et al for anyone who wasn't toeing the acceptable narrative talking points of the last 3+ years.

MeImCounting 2y ago
woof, The conspiracy theories abound in this thread.
- loceng 2y ago
  Oof, the ad hominem and laziness is abound in this thread. Attack the arguments and not the person by indirectly calling me a conspiracy theorist. Are you even aware of the Twitter Files I referenced, the specifics for what I'm referencing? Here's Matt Taibbi's specific work on the Twitter Files: https://twitterfiles.substack.com/ https://twitterfiles.substack.com/
troupo 2y ago
> I highly disagree that the free market has no mechanisms, exhibit A being Elon Musk 1. I didn't say "no mechanisms" in general. Re-read what I wrote 2. Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter doesn't show anything you pretend it shows, it doesn't show the mechanisms I specifically talked about, and since you jumped off of a cliff into deep conspiracy theories, I don't even care what you think it shows. Adieu.
- loceng 2y ago
  I understood what you wrote. Your logic and interpretation is off, why you don't understand what I said. Thanks for the ad hominem and being too lazy to engage except to tell us that indirectly, clearly "not worth my time" either - so let's say it's mutual - if you're arrogant enough to think the unreferenced "conspiracy theories" I've brought up have no truth or validity to them - you must clearly know better, especially with how much effort you put into things. /sarcasm And if you're referencing the Twitter Files "conspiracy theories" - here you go, enjoy, but I doubt you have the patience to actually "dive" into it, or even bother to lookup the US senate hearings on the issue: https://twitterfiles.substack.com/ https://twitterfiles.substack.com/ - Matt Taibbi's articles on it, one of the journalists Elon Musk gave access to Twitter's data including their staff communications/emails with the FBI et al.