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> GPT-6 might need about 10% of the world’s computers, a large power plant’s worth of energy ... Probably this looks like a town-sized data center attached to a

> GPT-6 might need about 10% of the world’s computers, a large power plant’s worth of energy ... Probably this looks like a town-sized data center attached to a lot of solar panels or a nuclear reactor. > GPT-7 might need all of the world’s computers, a gargantuan power plant beyond any that currently exist ... Probably this looks like a city-sized data center attached to a fusion plant. Snippet from Astral Codex Ten's article "Sam Altman Wants $7 Trillion". https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/sam-altman-wants-7-trillion https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/sam-altman-wants-7-trillion

zelias 2y ago
Factorio vibes intensify...
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Snippet from Astral Codex Ten's article "Sam Altman Wants $7 Trillion" I guess $10 trillion is the next B.S. number you have to throw out to get PR points.
- loceng 2y ago
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  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > they'll just need to use fear mongering to manufacture consent with the tax base There is zero evidence this has occured. To the degree Altman et al's doomsday fundraising had regulatory effect, it hasn't been in the form of subsidies but onerous rulemaking.
    - loceng 2y ago
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      - Analemma_ 2y ago
        You lied about something which isn't happening, the person who replied to you pointed out that you lied, and then you called that "a straw man argument" and quickly diverted to paragraphs of unrelated handwaving and character attacks. I don't think you're a serious person who should be taken seriously on this topic.
        loceng 2y ago
        Ha. Thanks for the audible laugh. You just made a bunch of claims without even citing what you claim I apparently lied about. Please cite where exactly I supposedly lied - and where the person I was replying to pointed out. And what character attacks are you even talking about, who did I allegedly character attack - please cite my words for that too? Since you commented on me, I'll comment on your reply that you seem to be very reactive - and I don't think you even understand the contents of what I wrote. I also wonder if you're somehow biased in regards to why you have such a strong reaction? If you're a "serious person" that you claim I'm not, you'll actually respond to each of my points to engage in an adult conversation - which will also show you're able to be calm enough to not be reactive such that you rush through to make claims without even referencing/citing specifics to support your claims.
  - troupo 2y ago
    > proving they can provide more value with competitive pricing Prove to whom? Since the availability of GPUs is quite constrained (availability of datacenters and electricity is constrained, too) you won't have many who "can provide more value". Free market has no mechanisms to combat abuse when resources are limited.
    - loceng 2y ago
      Prove to the end consumer - and hopefully not to industrial complexes that may somehow lobby politicians for regulatory capture to give the power to a handful vs. the consumer's "voting" power via their distributed-individual buying power. I highly disagree that the free market has no mechanisms, exhibit A being Elon Musk who had the credibility to rally $44 billion to buy Twitter to take that social media platform out of the hands that the establishment clearly had as a core pillar for their censorship-suppression-narrative control apparatus, of which the Twitter Files exposed the government's illegal suppression of Americans et al for anyone who wasn't toeing the acceptable narrative talking points of the last 3+ years.
      - MeImCounting 2y ago
        woof, The conspiracy theories abound in this thread.
        loceng 2y ago
        Oof, the ad hominem and laziness is abound in this thread. Attack the arguments and not the person by indirectly calling me a conspiracy theorist. Are you even aware of the Twitter Files I referenced, the specifics for what I'm referencing? Here's Matt Taibbi's specific work on the Twitter Files: https://twitterfiles.substack.com/ https://twitterfiles.substack.com/
      - troupo 2y ago
        > I highly disagree that the free market has no mechanisms, exhibit A being Elon Musk 1. I didn't say "no mechanisms" in general. Re-read what I wrote 2. Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter doesn't show anything you pretend it shows, it doesn't show the mechanisms I specifically talked about, and since you jumped off of a cliff into deep conspiracy theories, I don't even care what you think it shows. Adieu.

zelias 2y ago

Factorio vibes intensify...

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Snippet from Astral Codex Ten's article "Sam Altman Wants $7 Trillion" I guess $10 trillion is the next B.S. number you have to throw out to get PR points.

loceng 2y ago
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- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > they'll just need to use fear mongering to manufacture consent with the tax base There is zero evidence this has occured. To the degree Altman et al's doomsday fundraising had regulatory effect, it hasn't been in the form of subsidies but onerous rulemaking.
  - loceng 2y ago
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    - Analemma_ 2y ago
      You lied about something which isn't happening, the person who replied to you pointed out that you lied, and then you called that "a straw man argument" and quickly diverted to paragraphs of unrelated handwaving and character attacks. I don't think you're a serious person who should be taken seriously on this topic.
      - loceng 2y ago
        Ha. Thanks for the audible laugh. You just made a bunch of claims without even citing what you claim I apparently lied about. Please cite where exactly I supposedly lied - and where the person I was replying to pointed out. And what character attacks are you even talking about, who did I allegedly character attack - please cite my words for that too? Since you commented on me, I'll comment on your reply that you seem to be very reactive - and I don't think you even understand the contents of what I wrote. I also wonder if you're somehow biased in regards to why you have such a strong reaction? If you're a "serious person" that you claim I'm not, you'll actually respond to each of my points to engage in an adult conversation - which will also show you're able to be calm enough to not be reactive such that you rush through to make claims without even referencing/citing specifics to support your claims.
- troupo 2y ago
  > proving they can provide more value with competitive pricing Prove to whom? Since the availability of GPUs is quite constrained (availability of datacenters and electricity is constrained, too) you won't have many who "can provide more value". Free market has no mechanisms to combat abuse when resources are limited.
  - loceng 2y ago
    Prove to the end consumer - and hopefully not to industrial complexes that may somehow lobby politicians for regulatory capture to give the power to a handful vs. the consumer's "voting" power via their distributed-individual buying power. I highly disagree that the free market has no mechanisms, exhibit A being Elon Musk who had the credibility to rally $44 billion to buy Twitter to take that social media platform out of the hands that the establishment clearly had as a core pillar for their censorship-suppression-narrative control apparatus, of which the Twitter Files exposed the government's illegal suppression of Americans et al for anyone who wasn't toeing the acceptable narrative talking points of the last 3+ years.
    - MeImCounting 2y ago
      woof, The conspiracy theories abound in this thread.
      - loceng 2y ago
        Oof, the ad hominem and laziness is abound in this thread. Attack the arguments and not the person by indirectly calling me a conspiracy theorist. Are you even aware of the Twitter Files I referenced, the specifics for what I'm referencing? Here's Matt Taibbi's specific work on the Twitter Files: https://twitterfiles.substack.com/ https://twitterfiles.substack.com/
    - troupo 2y ago
      > I highly disagree that the free market has no mechanisms, exhibit A being Elon Musk 1. I didn't say "no mechanisms" in general. Re-read what I wrote 2. Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter doesn't show anything you pretend it shows, it doesn't show the mechanisms I specifically talked about, and since you jumped off of a cliff into deep conspiracy theories, I don't even care what you think it shows. Adieu.