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It would be much more appropriate to implement the system at a local level to avoid the issues you describe. That way you’re not comparing teachers in wildly di
by gnicholas 2y ago
It would be much more appropriate to implement the system at a local level to avoid the issues you describe. That way you’re not comparing teachers in wildly disparate environments.
- permo-w 2y agoif you leave the specifics to be implemented at local level then you're just going to create perverse incentives in a variable manner based on how competent local administrators are. the whole idea is poor. there's little benefit in putting pressure on teachers like this. all you're doing is unnaturally dragging their motivations away from helping kids grow into well-rounded individuals for the sake of them and society to earning more money based on some arbitrary goal dreamed up by a local bureaucrat
- gnicholas 2y agoFunny, it works great at the districts I’m aware of that use it. You seem to be assuming that teachers whose pay is tied only to seniority care more about kids growing into well-rounded individuals. Why would you assume that?
- permo-w 2y agodoes it? based on what metric? data please why would I assume that? because their motivations are not being skewed by an additional perverse financial incentive?
- gnicholas 2y agoI’ve talked with educators who moved states to be able to work in such an environment. They love it, and it attracts families that prefer to avoid pay systems that just focus on seniority. It’s interesting that you refer to this as a “perverse financial incentive” when we use performance-based metrics in pretty much every industry.
- permo-w 2y agoand therein lies the problem. treating education like an industry is entirely missing the point of what education is
- gnicholas 2y agoThat sounds like a great bumper sticker. Not much of an argument though. I work in the education field, and this doesn’t resonate with what I’ve seen at all.
- permo-w 2y agoand this is? your argument boils down to "despite all logic to the contrary, I believe in what I'm saying, therefore it's correct".
- gnicholas 2y agoThe notion that incentives help shape behavior, and if aligned with organizational goals, they can be useful, is not opposed to “all logic to the contrary.” You seem dead set against innovation in educator compensation, so I’ll just leave you be. Have a good one!