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Use a matrix bridge to discord instead. Jokes aside the discord ux is good enough for the average user, it already has chokehold on its users and there is no e

by morjom 2y ago

Use a matrix bridge to discord instead. Jokes aside the discord ux is good enough for the average user, it already has chokehold on its users and there is no equivalent. I would also prefer things to be easily searchable, archivable etc but consumers consume.

giancarlostoro 2y ago
> there is no equivalent. Guilded has entered the chat
lou1306 2y ago
Point is, if you are using it as a tool to reach out to your community it's mostly okay, but if you are doing support or documentation up there you should really really think twice. In this instance: Amiga 600 Discord where we post pics of our cool Amigas good, Amiga maintenance and schematics hidden in God knows which channel on God knows which Amiga Discord server bad. Best of both worlds: if someone asks question on a Discord and you know the answer, write a blog post (or whatever, as long as it is on the open Web) and link it back! You are guaranteed to have at least 1 readerr which is wildly above the average blog post lol
michaelt 2y ago
> it already has chokehold on its users and there is no equivalent. There are plenty of equivalents - Slack, Microsoft Teams etc offer the same IRC + persistent messages + searchable + persistent user accounts & admin + multi-device + image sharing + file sharing + spam protection product. They're just even worse, by most of the metrics that make people hate discord.
- ourmandave 2y ago
  I'll never use MS Teams for personal stuff because it's way to work adjacent. The fear of a mis-click or wrong login is to stressful to even start.
- morjom 2y ago
  If they're worse are they equivalent?
  - michaelt 2y ago
    They are equivalent in terms of the features I listed - the core product. The big difference is in vibes. Slack is unashamedly corporate and would love to sell you premium SSO integration. They could cut out (or offend) the free community tier, no sweat. On the other hand Discord is more gaming aligned, and would love to sell you some premium custom emojis. Offending the free tier users or getting rid of the free tier is a lot less compatible with their business model.
    - SAI_Peregrinus 2y ago
      Discord's core product is (or at least initially was) low-latency voice chat without needing to manage a server. Like Ventrillo or Mumble, but actually usable by most people. And there's text chat too, that actually works.

by morjom 2y ago

giancarlostoro 2y ago

> there is no equivalent. Guilded has entered the chat

lou1306 2y ago

Point is, if you are using it as a tool to reach out to your community it's mostly okay, but if you are doing support or documentation up there you should really really think twice. In this instance: Amiga 600 Discord where we post pics of our cool Amigas good, Amiga maintenance and schematics hidden in God knows which channel on God knows which Amiga Discord server bad. Best of both worlds: if someone asks question on a Discord and you know the answer, write a blog post (or whatever, as long as it is on the open Web) and link it back! You are guaranteed to have at least 1 readerr which is wildly above the average blog post lol

michaelt 2y ago

> it already has chokehold on its users and there is no equivalent. There are plenty of equivalents - Slack, Microsoft Teams etc offer the same IRC + persistent messages + searchable + persistent user accounts & admin + multi-device + image sharing + file sharing + spam protection product. They're just even worse, by most of the metrics that make people hate discord.

ourmandave 2y ago
I'll never use MS Teams for personal stuff because it's way to work adjacent. The fear of a mis-click or wrong login is to stressful to even start.
morjom 2y ago
If they're worse are they equivalent?
- michaelt 2y ago
  They are equivalent in terms of the features I listed - the core product. The big difference is in vibes. Slack is unashamedly corporate and would love to sell you premium SSO integration. They could cut out (or offend) the free community tier, no sweat. On the other hand Discord is more gaming aligned, and would love to sell you some premium custom emojis. Offending the free tier users or getting rid of the free tier is a lot less compatible with their business model.
  - SAI_Peregrinus 2y ago
    Discord's core product is (or at least initially was) low-latency voice chat without needing to manage a server. Like Ventrillo or Mumble, but actually usable by most people. And there's text chat too, that actually works.