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Sounds like good* strategy by Intel. Cheap for them & the MB manufacturers to make a few little changes, all the potential issues with Old MB/New CPU systems a

Sounds like good* strategy by Intel. Cheap for them & the MB manufacturers to make a few little changes, all the potential issues with Old MB/New CPU systems are now "sorry, not supported", and the Rebel 0.01% can imagine that they've cleverly won a real victory - which "victory" will barely be a rounding error on any of the Big Players' financials. *"Good" by Capitalist Overlord standards

yourusername 2y ago
But if i can buy a new CPU for my motherboard i would be almost guaranteed to stay with Intel. Now ever upgrade is a chance to jump ship to the competition. There are probably people on their 3rd AM4 CPU with the same motherboard.
- jimbobthrowawy 2y ago
  Intel only doing one upgrade per compatible mobo is kind of annoying. I had to buy and return a 6000 series CPU just to update my board's firmware so I could use the 7700k I intended to. How's the compatibility on the AMD side? Will a board work enough to upgrade itself with a newer CPU than it launched with?
  - toast0 2y ago
    Last time it was a major problem, AMD had a program to send you a low end old generation processor and you'd send it back when you were done. CPUless flashing is pretty common now though, and inventory is low, so there's less stale bios motherboards out there.
  - daneel_w 2y ago
    I had no problems upgrading from a quad-core Zen 2 to a hexa-core Zen 3 on my particular motherboard (Gigabyte A520M H).
  - InvaderFizz 2y ago
    If the board supports headless USB bios updates, yes. Those can update the bios without a cpu present.
  - mrguyorama 2y ago
    When the Ryzen 3xxx series CPUs came out, some motherboards had the same situation. Some computer stores were anecdotally lending out 2xxx series Ryzen CPUs so you could update your BIOS
MrBuddyCasino 2y ago
It is a way to guarantee MB vendors a steady recurring revenue, thus making it a good business to build mobos for you. AMD supports upgrades for longer, which is nice but presumably doesn't do them any favours in the OEM relationship game. Luckily, as a customer you have a choice.
xxs 2y ago
>Rebel 0.01% Lower than that, much lower - as it required custom built/assembled BIOS, effectively. The hardware mod was the very easy part.
- amarcheschi 2y ago
  I followed a guide to mod my bios (amd tho) to unlock features and with a tutorial is kinda easy... like, just follow the tutorial, open this, change this to that... i don't know however whether it would require a handmade mod for each bios or if a generalist tutorial would be okay for different oems mobos

yourusername 2y ago

But if i can buy a new CPU for my motherboard i would be almost guaranteed to stay with Intel. Now ever upgrade is a chance to jump ship to the competition. There are probably people on their 3rd AM4 CPU with the same motherboard.

jimbobthrowawy 2y ago
Intel only doing one upgrade per compatible mobo is kind of annoying. I had to buy and return a 6000 series CPU just to update my board's firmware so I could use the 7700k I intended to. How's the compatibility on the AMD side? Will a board work enough to upgrade itself with a newer CPU than it launched with?
- toast0 2y ago
  Last time it was a major problem, AMD had a program to send you a low end old generation processor and you'd send it back when you were done. CPUless flashing is pretty common now though, and inventory is low, so there's less stale bios motherboards out there.
- daneel_w 2y ago
  I had no problems upgrading from a quad-core Zen 2 to a hexa-core Zen 3 on my particular motherboard (Gigabyte A520M H).
- InvaderFizz 2y ago
  If the board supports headless USB bios updates, yes. Those can update the bios without a cpu present.
- mrguyorama 2y ago
  When the Ryzen 3xxx series CPUs came out, some motherboards had the same situation. Some computer stores were anecdotally lending out 2xxx series Ryzen CPUs so you could update your BIOS

MrBuddyCasino 2y ago

It is a way to guarantee MB vendors a steady recurring revenue, thus making it a good business to build mobos for you. AMD supports upgrades for longer, which is nice but presumably doesn't do them any favours in the OEM relationship game. Luckily, as a customer you have a choice.

xxs 2y ago

>Rebel 0.01% Lower than that, much lower - as it required custom built/assembled BIOS, effectively. The hardware mod was the very easy part.

amarcheschi 2y ago
I followed a guide to mod my bios (amd tho) to unlock features and with a tutorial is kinda easy... like, just follow the tutorial, open this, change this to that... i don't know however whether it would require a handmade mod for each bios or if a generalist tutorial would be okay for different oems mobos