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That's true for most recent AI/ML work, but hardly true for all of research.

cherryteastain 2y ago
I think it applies to most STEM fields. I'm a reviewer for several journals in a STEM field (not AI/ML specifically, but some manuscripts do try to apply AI/ML to this field) and the vast majority of authors seem to upload their preprints to arxiv etc. Social sciences may be behind though as you say, I do not know as I'm not in that field.
- jfkfif 2y ago
  Econ has a big working paper culture
- ants_everywhere 2y ago
  As someone with graduate degrees in both STEM (math) and social science (psychology) fields, it's true that social science is way behind STEM in terms of preprints to digital archives. It's possible there's momentum here in the last 5 or so years that I'm unaware of though. That matters for a few reasons: (1) the average person more frequently encounters psychological, social and medical issues more than they do math problems. And since the research in those fields tends to be pay walled, people are at the mercy of things like SEO spam medical and health sites. (2) wrong ideas in medicine or psychology can (and have in the past) damaged entire generations of people. So in that sense their blast radius can be very large. This means that peer review is especially important and that there's a potential negative externality to posting preprints and drafts before they're finalized. I suspect we'd have to solve the peer review and quality problem before STEM-style preprint archives become the norms in all fields.
- alephnerd 2y ago
  > I think it applies to most STEM fields Much of the medical and life sciences space does not publish on Arxiv or OA platforms. It's slowly changing with Green OA initiatives being pushed by government donors, but not there yet. > Social sciences may be behind though as you say Econ, a lot of PoliSci, Finance/Business, and Computational Linguistics was very early on the OA/Working Paper movement.
  - cherryteastain 2y ago
    Isn't biorxiv quite popular?
    - alephnerd 2y ago
      For Bioengineering it definetly is, but a lot of Medicine is still locked behind high impact Wiley and Sage publications, and for a lot of that research it's fairly easy to pay the $3-4k to make the article open access.
- whimsicalism 2y ago
  Not true at all for bio and medical science in particular. (yes biorxiv exists but it is not most papers)
insane_dreamer 2y ago
It’s also true for biological research (bioxriv)

I think it applies to most STEM fields. I'm a reviewer for several journals in a STEM field (not AI/ML specifically, but some manuscripts do try to apply AI/ML to this field) and the vast majority of authors seem to upload their preprints to arxiv etc. Social sciences may be behind though as you say, I do not know as I'm not in that field.

jfkfif 2y ago
Econ has a big working paper culture
ants_everywhere 2y ago
As someone with graduate degrees in both STEM (math) and social science (psychology) fields, it's true that social science is way behind STEM in terms of preprints to digital archives. It's possible there's momentum here in the last 5 or so years that I'm unaware of though. That matters for a few reasons: (1) the average person more frequently encounters psychological, social and medical issues more than they do math problems. And since the research in those fields tends to be pay walled, people are at the mercy of things like SEO spam medical and health sites. (2) wrong ideas in medicine or psychology can (and have in the past) damaged entire generations of people. So in that sense their blast radius can be very large. This means that peer review is especially important and that there's a potential negative externality to posting preprints and drafts before they're finalized. I suspect we'd have to solve the peer review and quality problem before STEM-style preprint archives become the norms in all fields.
alephnerd 2y ago
> I think it applies to most STEM fields Much of the medical and life sciences space does not publish on Arxiv or OA platforms. It's slowly changing with Green OA initiatives being pushed by government donors, but not there yet. > Social sciences may be behind though as you say Econ, a lot of PoliSci, Finance/Business, and Computational Linguistics was very early on the OA/Working Paper movement.
- cherryteastain 2y ago
  Isn't biorxiv quite popular?
  - alephnerd 2y ago
    For Bioengineering it definetly is, but a lot of Medicine is still locked behind high impact Wiley and Sage publications, and for a lot of that research it's fairly easy to pay the $3-4k to make the article open access.
whimsicalism 2y ago
Not true at all for bio and medical science in particular. (yes biorxiv exists but it is not most papers)

insane_dreamer 2y ago

It’s also true for biological research (bioxriv)