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Yeah I'm having trouble understanding how /u/db48x's logic doesn't apply equally well to all political systems. Maybe the next time someone complains to me abou

• db48x 2y ago
  The USA believes so hard in the freedom of association that we are willing to let people leave whenever they want. You don’t need permission, just find somewhere better and go there. Compare that with the Soviet Union, or East Germany, or China, or North Korea. In those countries leaving may technically be allowed, but may require a lifetime of asking for permission. The Soviet Union didn’t even provide its own people with maps lest they find out where the borders were.
  • mlrtime 2y ago
    As an American "leaving" you may need to pay your taxes on the way out (giving up citizenship).
  • ohmyiv 2y ago
    > Compare that with the Soviet Union, or East Germany, or China, or North Korea Would it be better to compare current, non-totalitarian governments, such as EU, Australia, or the like? It kind of sounds disingenuous to use extreme examples. (No dig to you or your opinion, just don't see how using those examples helps.)
    • db48x 2y ago
      As I already said, many countries have freedom of association to one degree or another. You could spend a lot of effort to distinguish countries with a similar degree of freedom, but I chose to list a few obvious examples of countries that do not have that freedom. Or did not, as the case may be.