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> You have the right to repair what you own. Based on what? Specifically, it's not listed in Article 17 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights [0] > This is aim

• Jnr 2y ago
  Based on the fact that you own that thing and you can do whatever you want with it. The issue until now has been the availability of documentation (schematics, instructions, etc.). For example, in USA you can purchase Volvo service manual access as individual, but in EU it is not available at all.
  • mytailorisrich 2y ago
    Here in the UK manuals for most cars are available through Haynes. For example Volvo XC60: https://haynes.com/en-gb/volvo/xc60/2018-20-diesel-449210 https://haynes.com/en-gb/volvo/xc60/2018-20-diesel-449210 I had the one for my 2008 Ford Fiesta and it helped me doing some repairs myself.
  • 8372049 2y ago
    Having a "right" to repair something doesn't really mean much if the vendors can legally keep documentation and spare parts from you, does it? The point is that this law does not give you any more rights on that matter, it only grants those rights to professionals. Furthermore, "you can do what you want with it" is misleading if doing what you want with it (e.g. repairing it) will have unreasonable consequences such as unfairly void warranties and so on.
    • mytailorisrich 2y ago
      > Furthermore, "you can do what you want with it" is misleading if doing what you want with it (e.g. repairing it) will have unreasonable consequences such as unfairly void warranties and so on. Not it's not misleading. If it's under warranty it means they'll repair it for free. But equally it's quite reasonable for them to refuse (i.e. warranty is void) is you have fiddled with the device. A warranty is only a consumer protection against defects. That has nothing to do with your right to do anything you want with your property.
      • 8372049 2y ago
        It's reasonable if you have fiddled and broken something, but a catch-all if you touch it then you lose all rights is not reasonable.
• mytailorisrich 2y ago
  > Article 17 Right to property 1. Everyone has the right to own, use, dispose of and bequeath his or her lawfully acquired possessions. No one may be deprived of his or her possessions, except in the public interest and in the cases and under the conditions provided for by law, subject to fair compensation being paid in good time for their loss. The use of property may be regulated by law in so far as is necessary for the general interest. You can do whatever you want with your propery, this is a fundamental and established right of private property. > This is aimed at preventing companies from preventing professional repair services from doing so. If repairmen are able to repair, you can, too. It is already by and large possible for many appliances. I have done it many times, there are websites where you can order many parts and even manuals (e.g. espares.co.uk in the UK). The issue is one of competence and will to do it. It's utopian to think that most people want to repair their own appliances or are able to. It's like for cars. In the (not so) 'olden' days you could buy detailed manuals and parts where available, including from junkyards. Cars were purely mechanical. And yet the vast majority of people were not touching them beyond checking the oil level...
  • 8372049 2y ago
    My point is that this law grants rights to professional repairmen/service providers, not to consumers (or anyone else).
    • mytailorisrich 2y ago
      We have a right to repair and always had, as said. Individuals have access in the same way as repairmen. It's already possible to source parts for most appliances as an individual. This should make it easier. Indeed, what is the difference between a consumer and a "professional repairman"? None apart from the fact that the latter is expected to have some competency and knowledge on how to get parts (which traditionally means a nondescript supplier in the local industrial area, which you're free to go to as well, there are also websites these days), but there is no magic licence that gives access to secret, restricted warehouses. But the key is that Joe Public is not interested. If something breaks down they call a repairman or buy new. It's unrealistic or utopian to believe that people are interested. It's worded as targetting professionals because it is (somewhat) realistic and, I'm guessing, aimed at using the existing suppliers, not forcing availablity of parts in supermarkets.