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I'm a man (also from early 80's) and I still identified more with Scully than with Mulder. She was just so cool. Now I have a daughter and she's all about unic

I'm a man (also from early 80's) and I still identified more with Scully than with Mulder. She was just so cool. Now I have a daughter and she's all about unicorns, rainbows and princesses and I keep telling her she can be a knight. Or a scientist. Weirdly I think all those Barbie cartoons on Netflix are having a good influence on her, Barbie is strong but fallible, honest, admits her mistakes, works hard to correct them, does not give up. She super privileged though... I feel like my daughter is getting quite good in social situations because of Barbie (and Lucky from Spirit, and Zoe from The New Adventures of Lassie). In any case, it has a different influence on her than the stuff my son watches, which is (a sigh of relieve) also increasingly involving strong women: Avatar (the last airbender), She-Ra, Carmen San Diego... Strong women... on the Battle Field.

NemoNobody 2y ago
Little late on this but I watched Stephen Universe with my nephew and I was really impressed with that show - lots of very positive messages and the general feel of the show is quite different from the usual cartoon network show - but still very much a cartoon. I think the snow runner Rebecca Sugar did an excellent job - she was a writer for AT as well. One of my favorite characters is Stephen's Dad - he literally lives in his van. I'd recommend watching with your daughter someday for sure
john2x 2y ago
Have you seen Hilda on Netflix? It’s amazing.
- rlawson 2y ago
  My 6 yr olds favorite show, can be a little dark at times
  - teekert 2y ago
    Just got started on it, thanx for the suggestion! (Nice that it’s with Dutch audio here, what a world!)
  - john2x 2y ago
    Yeah the 3rd season really upped the stakes. Kinda makes sense if the target audience grew up alongside the series. But for newcomers, it’ll probably be quite jarring.
andyroony 2y ago
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- sfn42 2y ago
  Maybe you should concern yourself less with how others live their lives
  - andyroony 2y ago
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- teekert 2y ago
  Sure, they make their own choices. But if all they (son and daughter) consume are submissive Disney princesses I get … frustrated? I want my daughter to have strong role models. Like Scully. What are boys and girls anyway? It’s all made up cultural constructs. If anything I want them to be aware of that and know they can choose their own unique path to happiness, while recognizing that right for others as well of course.
  - card_zero 2y ago
    "I am not a prize to be won!" - Princess Jasmine (1992).
    - p_l 2y ago
      Just like how James Kirk from ST:TOS has been turned in general perception into this weird womanizer who slept with every green skinned alien babe [1], so is all the "supplementary" cultural material erasing important bits like that, especially when such bits are less "in your face" than (keeping to Disney) Merida from Brave. [1] the actual horndog of the main crew was McCoy, and Picard was rabble-rouser and notorious flirt in his youth, enough that his replacement heart happened due to bar fight
  - NemoNobody 2y ago
    "It's all made up cultural constructs" - THIS EXACTLY! Thank you. It seems to me, that our cultural constructs of gender, long disembodied from the survival necessity that bore them, have been defined in ways that no longer match the way we live. Perhaps our physical selves and public identity don't need to change at all. Maybe, instead of all that, we should just redefine the words so that gender is as inclusive an idea as their are aspects of it. One seems much easier than the other.
mjhay 2y ago
She might like Adventure Time (which is also very entertaining for adults). One of the main characters is Princess Bubblegum, a very competant scientist-princess (albeit with some megalomaniacal tendencies).
- NemoNobody 2y ago
  AT season 6 I think it is - covers more philosophy than my intro to philosophy course at university. That ending theme song still breaks me everytime I hear it. Such a great show
  - tombert 2y ago
    I was genuinely surprised at how good Fionna and Cake ended up being. When they announced it I thought they were just milking the franchise dry but it ended up being extremely insightful and justified its existence.
    - NemoNobody 2y ago
      I was expecting exactly what you were I think - I was also quite surprised. I almost entirely skipped the episode and instead I ended up thinking I'd actually watch that show, but not at the expense of Finn and Jake. AT was maybe ahead of its time with that in hindsight
      - tombert 2y ago
        I really liked the ending of the series a lot; I thought the final two episodes tied together the loose ends I cared about and finished on a theme that really highlighted the core messages of the show. To me, it was exactly the ending I wanted for the show. When they announced Distant Lands, I immediately felt annoyed, because I thought "they're going to take a nearly perfect ending and risk ruining it by adding more crap to it??" Initially I wasn't going to watch Distant Lands because I was afraid it might tarnish the series for me, but eventually I caved and was surprised to find that it a) didn't do anything to ruin the original ending, and b) actually had interesting ideas to share that the show is better for having. I thought Obsidian and Together Again really did a great job continuing the series in such a way that it didn't negate anything I loved about the original show, and posed some more interesting thematic elements about the characters. I don't know if it's Pendleton or someone else in the Cartoon Network staff, but whomever is in charge of Adventure Time really seems to know what they're doing. I get the impression that they will only allow a new thing to be added to the franchise if it has a good reason to exist. Fionna and Cake did a great job maturing the series a bit, without it being gratuitous. It ended so well that I'm a bit concerned that they renewed it for a second season, but I've been wrong twice before and I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll keep up the quality.

NemoNobody 2y ago

Little late on this but I watched Stephen Universe with my nephew and I was really impressed with that show - lots of very positive messages and the general feel of the show is quite different from the usual cartoon network show - but still very much a cartoon. I think the snow runner Rebecca Sugar did an excellent job - she was a writer for AT as well. One of my favorite characters is Stephen's Dad - he literally lives in his van. I'd recommend watching with your daughter someday for sure

john2x 2y ago

Have you seen Hilda on Netflix? It’s amazing.

rlawson 2y ago
My 6 yr olds favorite show, can be a little dark at times
- teekert 2y ago
  Just got started on it, thanx for the suggestion! (Nice that it’s with Dutch audio here, what a world!)
- john2x 2y ago
  Yeah the 3rd season really upped the stakes. Kinda makes sense if the target audience grew up alongside the series. But for newcomers, it’ll probably be quite jarring.

andyroony 2y ago

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sfn42 2y ago
Maybe you should concern yourself less with how others live their lives
- andyroony 2y ago
  [flagged]
teekert 2y ago
Sure, they make their own choices. But if all they (son and daughter) consume are submissive Disney princesses I get … frustrated? I want my daughter to have strong role models. Like Scully. What are boys and girls anyway? It’s all made up cultural constructs. If anything I want them to be aware of that and know they can choose their own unique path to happiness, while recognizing that right for others as well of course.
- card_zero 2y ago
  "I am not a prize to be won!" - Princess Jasmine (1992).
  - p_l 2y ago
    Just like how James Kirk from ST:TOS has been turned in general perception into this weird womanizer who slept with every green skinned alien babe [1], so is all the "supplementary" cultural material erasing important bits like that, especially when such bits are less "in your face" than (keeping to Disney) Merida from Brave. [1] the actual horndog of the main crew was McCoy, and Picard was rabble-rouser and notorious flirt in his youth, enough that his replacement heart happened due to bar fight
- NemoNobody 2y ago
  "It's all made up cultural constructs" - THIS EXACTLY! Thank you. It seems to me, that our cultural constructs of gender, long disembodied from the survival necessity that bore them, have been defined in ways that no longer match the way we live. Perhaps our physical selves and public identity don't need to change at all. Maybe, instead of all that, we should just redefine the words so that gender is as inclusive an idea as their are aspects of it. One seems much easier than the other.

mjhay 2y ago

She might like Adventure Time (which is also very entertaining for adults). One of the main characters is Princess Bubblegum, a very competant scientist-princess (albeit with some megalomaniacal tendencies).

NemoNobody 2y ago
AT season 6 I think it is - covers more philosophy than my intro to philosophy course at university. That ending theme song still breaks me everytime I hear it. Such a great show
- tombert 2y ago
  I was genuinely surprised at how good Fionna and Cake ended up being. When they announced it I thought they were just milking the franchise dry but it ended up being extremely insightful and justified its existence.
  - NemoNobody 2y ago
    I was expecting exactly what you were I think - I was also quite surprised. I almost entirely skipped the episode and instead I ended up thinking I'd actually watch that show, but not at the expense of Finn and Jake. AT was maybe ahead of its time with that in hindsight
    - tombert 2y ago
      I really liked the ending of the series a lot; I thought the final two episodes tied together the loose ends I cared about and finished on a theme that really highlighted the core messages of the show. To me, it was exactly the ending I wanted for the show. When they announced Distant Lands, I immediately felt annoyed, because I thought "they're going to take a nearly perfect ending and risk ruining it by adding more crap to it??" Initially I wasn't going to watch Distant Lands because I was afraid it might tarnish the series for me, but eventually I caved and was surprised to find that it a) didn't do anything to ruin the original ending, and b) actually had interesting ideas to share that the show is better for having. I thought Obsidian and Together Again really did a great job continuing the series in such a way that it didn't negate anything I loved about the original show, and posed some more interesting thematic elements about the characters. I don't know if it's Pendleton or someone else in the Cartoon Network staff, but whomever is in charge of Adventure Time really seems to know what they're doing. I get the impression that they will only allow a new thing to be added to the franchise if it has a good reason to exist. Fionna and Cake did a great job maturing the series a bit, without it being gratuitous. It ended so well that I'm a bit concerned that they renewed it for a second season, but I've been wrong twice before and I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll keep up the quality.