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I may be ignorant on this, but how can HOAs have lobbyists? They are made up of local people right? Or am I behind on this and there is already a HOA industry?

shiroiushi 2y ago
I'm not sure about this (someone please feel free to chime in), but HOAs are only "local people" after the developers have sold all the houses and moved on, at which point the HOA becomes controlled by the homeowners in the association with the most Nazi-like mentalities. Before this, the HOA is set up by the developer that bought all the land and developed the subdivision. So, presumably, the "HOA lobbyists" are actually the lobbyists for housing developers, which I think are definitely a real thing.
michaelt 2y ago
> how can HOAs have lobbyists? They don't. For all the power an HOA might have in their street or apartment block, outside of that very small boundary they're nothing. We're not talking about Boeing or Morgan Stanley or PG&E here. HOAs are actually popular by choice - developers wouldn't set them up for "80% of available houses" if the houses were more valuable without them. 2% of people have horror story experiences with corrupt HOAs pocketing their cash. 23% of people just get poor value for money where some asshole changes a lightbulb and charges 100 residents $1 each. 75% of people have a tolerable experience, and quite like the fact their neighbour can't park an RV on their driveway and rent it out on airbnb, and if that means limiting what people are allowed to do on their own driveway, so be it.
- forgetfreeman 2y ago
  Oh they absolutely do. https://www.caionline.org/pages/default.aspx https://www.caionline.org/pages/default.aspx
- hahajk 2y ago
  Cities also like them (alot) since they assume costs that cities usually pay for. Neighborhood parks are usually maintained by the HOAs. Less commonly sidewalks, roads, and water lines are maintained by the HOA.

shiroiushi 2y ago

I'm not sure about this (someone please feel free to chime in), but HOAs are only "local people" after the developers have sold all the houses and moved on, at which point the HOA becomes controlled by the homeowners in the association with the most Nazi-like mentalities. Before this, the HOA is set up by the developer that bought all the land and developed the subdivision. So, presumably, the "HOA lobbyists" are actually the lobbyists for housing developers, which I think are definitely a real thing.

michaelt 2y ago

> how can HOAs have lobbyists? They don't. For all the power an HOA might have in their street or apartment block, outside of that very small boundary they're nothing. We're not talking about Boeing or Morgan Stanley or PG&E here. HOAs are actually popular by choice - developers wouldn't set them up for "80% of available houses" if the houses were more valuable without them. 2% of people have horror story experiences with corrupt HOAs pocketing their cash. 23% of people just get poor value for money where some asshole changes a lightbulb and charges 100 residents $1 each. 75% of people have a tolerable experience, and quite like the fact their neighbour can't park an RV on their driveway and rent it out on airbnb, and if that means limiting what people are allowed to do on their own driveway, so be it.

forgetfreeman 2y ago
Oh they absolutely do. https://www.caionline.org/pages/default.aspx https://www.caionline.org/pages/default.aspx
hahajk 2y ago
Cities also like them (alot) since they assume costs that cities usually pay for. Neighborhood parks are usually maintained by the HOAs. Less commonly sidewalks, roads, and water lines are maintained by the HOA.