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This makes 0 sense to me. I get tons of real world value and productivity benefits from AI, most specifically ChatGPT and cursor.sh. I don't disagree that ther
by hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
This makes 0 sense to me. I get tons of real world value and productivity benefits from AI, most specifically ChatGPT and cursor.sh.
I don't disagree that there is a ton of hype, a lot of it unwarranted, and I cringe when I see tons of companies trying to "throw AI against the wall and see if it sticks" (I personally nominate LinkedIn's AI blurbs on their feed as "most useless and annoying use of AI"). But still, I'm blown away with how much value I get from AI. It makes me a bit sad that so many of us have become so jaded that they see it as "one big LARP".
- Capricorn2481 2y agoIt's dismissive to call it jaded. I don't think you, me, or the people you're talking about are intellectually different. We just don't like what AI makes even if we think it's impressive.
- hn_throwaway_99 2y agoFair point, my apologies. I guess what I'm saying is that I agree that AI is an imperfect tool, but saying it's all hype feels like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
- rockskon 2y agoLLM is just about all hype. I've found AI song generators to be entertaining but that's about it.
- rockskon 2y agoThat's the thing - I can't trust ChatGPT. If I am searching for something I don't know the answer to and don't have the luxury of trial-and-error for the information I'm given, I can't rely on an unreliable agent like ChatGPT (or literally any LLM for that matter). ChatGPT could be giving me a correct answer. Or it could be blowing smoke up my ass. I don't know which it is when I'm seeing an answer from ChatGPT! And that's the problem.
- tasuki 2y agoAsk questions where you can verify whether the answer is correct. Then it becomes a very useful tool.
- rockskon 2y agoOnly if the trial-and-error process has no meaningful consequences for failure.
- tasuki 2y agoWhat things do you work on that have meaningful consequences for failure? Woodworking? LLMs indeed might not be for you! I write code and there's zero consequences for failure as long as I don't push it in version control...
- School-Cotton 2y agoYeah. Which describes tons of stuff I encounter every day.
- rockskon 2y agoWhich doesn't describe much of my stuff at all. At least not my stuff where it'd be quicker to ask an AI agent for help with.
- latexr 2y ago> Ask questions where you can verify whether the answer is correct. If you’re going to verify (and you should), might as well skip the asking step.
- hn_throwaway_99 2y agoExcept that's a million times slower. I'll often ask it to generate some complicated SQL queries for me (usually when I need to get info from system tables, less so my own data), and it's pretty trivially easy to verify the output. It would take me much, much longer if I had to write these queries from scratch.