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Basically every business falsifies their records, and sure especially Trump. When Trump was apolitical and being a corrupt businessman this didn't happen, now

Basically every business falsifies their records, and sure especially Trump. When Trump was apolitical and being a corrupt businessman this didn't happen, now magically that he is politically active suddenly the felony charges bust out. He's a criminal sure, but selective prosecution to undermine democratic process destroys democracy and undermines equal application of law. If he was pursued this aggressively before his campaigning when he was doing the same illegal corrupt shit it would look a lot less political.

krapp 2y ago
Trump is a criminal... but prosecuting him for crimes he actually committed according to the evidence and a jury of his peers... destroys democracy? Sure, Jan.
- beaeglebeachedd 2y ago
  Yes, that is my argument. Selective prosecution with political motives is anarcho tyranny.
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  - rat87 2y ago
    But it's not selective. Because someone finally prosecuted him. Letting him get away with it because he's rich and because he's running for president while locking up others for lesser crimes would be selective prosecution. If we can't even convict trump how can anyone in our society trust the rule of law?
    - beaeglebeachedd 2y ago
      It's definitely selective. Fauci appears to have lied to Congress about gain of function research funding, a crime punishable by up to 5 years in prison. Yet he walks free. Letting him get away with it because he's rich and because he's advised the president while locking up others for lesser crimes would be selective prosecution. If we can't even convict Fauci how can anyone in our society trust the rule of law?
spartanatreyu 2y ago
> now magically that he is politically active suddenly the felony charges bust out. But the felony counts were of him falsifying business records to break election laws. He did this while he was political, because he was political, and he hasn't stopped being political since. There's no suddenly here, it finally happened now because that's the speed of the justice system even with trump doing whatever he could to delay it as long as he could. The rest of the "political persecution" claims fall apart after that.
- beaeglebeachedd 2y ago
  The crime was record keeping fraud, something Trump has infamously and quite publicly done his whole adult life.
  - infotainment 2y ago
    Well then, I’d say it’s good it finally caught up to him! Being well known for committing crimes and getting away with it doesn’t seem like a good thing.
    - beaeglebeachedd 2y ago
      Of course it's probably not a good thing. The question is which is worse, almost everyone getting away with it until/unless they have political enemies, or most everyone equally pretty much getting away with it. I'm comparing bad to worse, not good to bad. I'm saying in this case it's worse, even though everyone getting prosecuted may be better.
      - philosopher1234 2y ago
        Of course it’s a political prosecution for Alvin Bragg. But Trump ought to be prosecuted. He tried to overturn the election. Jail is appropriate. If you can’t get him on the actual crime, getting him on a related crime when everyone in America knows in their bones he’s guilty as sin is justice. Like getting Al Capone on tax crime. Justice isn’t about everything being 100% rule following at all times, it’s about crimes being punished.
shadowgovt 2y ago
The crime that he committed was fraud relating to a presidential campaign. Can't exactly accuse him of doing that if he isn't politically active. And Trump spent plenty of time in court before showing aspirations of public office. He just tended to bend civil law, not criminal.

krapp 2y ago

Trump is a criminal... but prosecuting him for crimes he actually committed according to the evidence and a jury of his peers... destroys democracy? Sure, Jan.

beaeglebeachedd 2y ago
Yes, that is my argument. Selective prosecution with political motives is anarcho tyranny.
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- rat87 2y ago
  But it's not selective. Because someone finally prosecuted him. Letting him get away with it because he's rich and because he's running for president while locking up others for lesser crimes would be selective prosecution. If we can't even convict trump how can anyone in our society trust the rule of law?
  - beaeglebeachedd 2y ago
    It's definitely selective. Fauci appears to have lied to Congress about gain of function research funding, a crime punishable by up to 5 years in prison. Yet he walks free. Letting him get away with it because he's rich and because he's advised the president while locking up others for lesser crimes would be selective prosecution. If we can't even convict Fauci how can anyone in our society trust the rule of law?

spartanatreyu 2y ago

> now magically that he is politically active suddenly the felony charges bust out. But the felony counts were of him falsifying business records to break election laws. He did this while he was political, because he was political, and he hasn't stopped being political since. There's no suddenly here, it finally happened now because that's the speed of the justice system even with trump doing whatever he could to delay it as long as he could. The rest of the "political persecution" claims fall apart after that.

beaeglebeachedd 2y ago
The crime was record keeping fraud, something Trump has infamously and quite publicly done his whole adult life.
- infotainment 2y ago
  Well then, I’d say it’s good it finally caught up to him! Being well known for committing crimes and getting away with it doesn’t seem like a good thing.
  - beaeglebeachedd 2y ago
    Of course it's probably not a good thing. The question is which is worse, almost everyone getting away with it until/unless they have political enemies, or most everyone equally pretty much getting away with it. I'm comparing bad to worse, not good to bad. I'm saying in this case it's worse, even though everyone getting prosecuted may be better.
    - philosopher1234 2y ago
      Of course it’s a political prosecution for Alvin Bragg. But Trump ought to be prosecuted. He tried to overturn the election. Jail is appropriate. If you can’t get him on the actual crime, getting him on a related crime when everyone in America knows in their bones he’s guilty as sin is justice. Like getting Al Capone on tax crime. Justice isn’t about everything being 100% rule following at all times, it’s about crimes being punished.

shadowgovt 2y ago

The crime that he committed was fraud relating to a presidential campaign. Can't exactly accuse him of doing that if he isn't politically active. And Trump spent plenty of time in court before showing aspirations of public office. He just tended to bend civil law, not criminal.