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They _almost_ do. I can use a USBC-headphone dongle that came with some Pixel phone with my iPhone, but only for listening to music and videos. For video calls

They _almost_ do. I can use a USBC-headphone dongle that came with some Pixel phone with my iPhone, but only for listening to music and videos. For video calls (at least Google Meet), the phone just plays the audio out its speakers like normal, and doesn't offer the option to use the headphone dongle. I thought this was a bug in Google Meet until I plugged in a first-party Apple dongle and it worked perfectly.

lxgr 2y ago
Huh, very interesting! Since these adapters are active, I wonder if there's a slight mismatch in what the Pixel adapter advertises and what the iPhone expects. Maybe the iPhone identifies it as a USB speaker (i.e. output only)? I also wonder who's out of spec here: My guess would be Apple (especially Google's history of pushing USB-C and even producing some open-hardware debugging tools for it), but then again I've had my Macbook struggle with a Chromebook charger, and only that charger in the past. Would be curious to see a USB-knowledgeable person run a logic analyzer on the Pixel dongle to see what's going on.
brokenmachine 2y ago
So they also gimped their USBC port to sell more airpods. What a surprise that is. There's no lengths that Apple won't go to to sell more dongles or overpriced airpods.
- lxgr 2y ago
  So from the observation "a Google USB-C device does not work properly on an Apple phone", you immediately arrive at "Apple must be out of spec"? I'd also be really curious what's going on here, but you just seem to have an axe to grind. In my experience, Apple has been pretty ok at complying with standards (assuming they even implement a given one, anyway). For example, I've had a USB-C Chromebook charger that would cycle on and off when connected to my Macbook, while several other USB-C chargers (including very particular ones like the Nintendo Switch one) were able to charge it without any problem. From my point of view, the one Google product I used was the outlier, but I wouldn't go as far as saying "Google's USB-C implementations are crap and a money grab".
  - brokenmachine 2y ago
    I also have a coworker who is an Apple victim who had previously complained to me that he couldn't get the microphone on his headset working with his iPhone, but I don't know what brand the headset was. So that made me even more inclined to think Apple has gimped their USBC ports to sell more dongles and airpods.

lxgr 2y ago

Huh, very interesting! Since these adapters are active, I wonder if there's a slight mismatch in what the Pixel adapter advertises and what the iPhone expects. Maybe the iPhone identifies it as a USB speaker (i.e. output only)? I also wonder who's out of spec here: My guess would be Apple (especially Google's history of pushing USB-C and even producing some open-hardware debugging tools for it), but then again I've had my Macbook struggle with a Chromebook charger, and only that charger in the past. Would be curious to see a USB-knowledgeable person run a logic analyzer on the Pixel dongle to see what's going on.

brokenmachine 2y ago

So they also gimped their USBC port to sell more airpods. What a surprise that is. There's no lengths that Apple won't go to to sell more dongles or overpriced airpods.

lxgr 2y ago
So from the observation "a Google USB-C device does not work properly on an Apple phone", you immediately arrive at "Apple must be out of spec"? I'd also be really curious what's going on here, but you just seem to have an axe to grind. In my experience, Apple has been pretty ok at complying with standards (assuming they even implement a given one, anyway). For example, I've had a USB-C Chromebook charger that would cycle on and off when connected to my Macbook, while several other USB-C chargers (including very particular ones like the Nintendo Switch one) were able to charge it without any problem. From my point of view, the one Google product I used was the outlier, but I wouldn't go as far as saying "Google's USB-C implementations are crap and a money grab".
- brokenmachine 2y ago
  I also have a coworker who is an Apple victim who had previously complained to me that he couldn't get the microphone on his headset working with his iPhone, but I don't know what brand the headset was. So that made me even more inclined to think Apple has gimped their USBC ports to sell more dongles and airpods.