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It's important to note here that Mozilla spends the majority of that money on non-Firefox projects (something that has pissed off people who have wanted to dona

It's important to note here that Mozilla spends the majority of that money on non-Firefox projects (something that has pissed off people who have wanted to donate to Firefox specifically for ages). Firefox itself gets a sliver of that.

fabrice_d 2y ago
Like many you are likely confused by the Foundation (MoFo) vs. Corp (MoCo) finances. You can only donate to MoFo, and indeed it doesn't spend much (if anything) paying Firefox staff. This is because Firefox staff is on the MoCo payroll, which gets its revenue mostly from their search engine deal with Google. MoCo actually pays MoFo to use the trademarks that are owned by MoFo.
- pseudalopex 2y ago
  Specifically Mozilla Corporation paid Mozilla Foundation in 2022 under $20 million from over $585 million in revenue. The relationship between Mozilla Foundation and Mozilla Corporation can make some details confusing. But most people who claim what they did never looked at Mozilla finances in my experience.
dralley 2y ago
>something that has pissed off people who have wanted to donate to Firefox specifically for ages Get pissed at tax law, not Mozilla. Mozilla Foundation cannot legally funnel tax-exempt donations into the development of products for a for-profit entity (Mozilla Corporation). That would be a crime.
- gravescale 2y ago
  MoCo could start an OnlyFans for "donations", it's a pretty hot fox after all, what with being, y'know, on fire.
- strken 2y ago
  Wow, if only there was a separate corporate entity which could accept donations but which wasn't the Foundation. I wonder what Mozilla would call such a Corporation.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    IANAL - I kinda thought a company can't take donations? So obviously the answer is a Firefox Pro that is 99% the same but lets us give them money. Maybe give it crazy features like a compact layout and the ability to run extensions locally.
    - pseudalopex 2y ago
      For profit companies can take donations. Most Thunderbird funding is donations to MZLA Technologies Corporation for example.

fabrice_d 2y ago

Like many you are likely confused by the Foundation (MoFo) vs. Corp (MoCo) finances. You can only donate to MoFo, and indeed it doesn't spend much (if anything) paying Firefox staff. This is because Firefox staff is on the MoCo payroll, which gets its revenue mostly from their search engine deal with Google. MoCo actually pays MoFo to use the trademarks that are owned by MoFo.

pseudalopex 2y ago
Specifically Mozilla Corporation paid Mozilla Foundation in 2022 under $20 million from over $585 million in revenue. The relationship between Mozilla Foundation and Mozilla Corporation can make some details confusing. But most people who claim what they did never looked at Mozilla finances in my experience.

dralley 2y ago

>something that has pissed off people who have wanted to donate to Firefox specifically for ages Get pissed at tax law, not Mozilla. Mozilla Foundation cannot legally funnel tax-exempt donations into the development of products for a for-profit entity (Mozilla Corporation). That would be a crime.

gravescale 2y ago
MoCo could start an OnlyFans for "donations", it's a pretty hot fox after all, what with being, y'know, on fire.
strken 2y ago
Wow, if only there was a separate corporate entity which could accept donations but which wasn't the Foundation. I wonder what Mozilla would call such a Corporation.
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  IANAL - I kinda thought a company can't take donations? So obviously the answer is a Firefox Pro that is 99% the same but lets us give them money. Maybe give it crazy features like a compact layout and the ability to run extensions locally.
  - pseudalopex 2y ago
    For profit companies can take donations. Most Thunderbird funding is donations to MZLA Technologies Corporation for example.