Is that an issue? It's a dense city which puts the pedestrian on top of the transit hierarchy. There's no need for cars there. Phoenix is car-dependent sprawl a

Is that an issue? It's a dense city which puts the pedestrian on top of the transit hierarchy. There's no need for cars there. Phoenix is car-dependent sprawl and even after removing parking minimums, upzoning, and running BRT or other high LOS transit, you're still looking at large parts of the city where it'll probably take decades to be viable to run transit to and are impossible to walk to. In SF the core is walkable and has great transit but the moment you get to the outer neighborhoods transit LOS decreases significantly and there's large parts unserviced. Waymo makes more sense there. Plus SF is abutted by suburbs with retirement-age-and-above populations who fight densification at every turn where it's impossible to get from city-center to city-center via any form of transit.