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I am not saying you should have to give Google your money, but do you think the people who make content on Youtube deserve to get paid for it? Even if they make
by legitster 2y ago
I am not saying you should have to give Google your money, but do you think the people who make content on Youtube deserve to get paid for it? Even if they make money on Patreon or Floatplane, Youtube is not a cheap service to run and you are still using it.
Pay for the stuff you use or don't use it. But you don't get to complain about companies treating you like the product.
A Youtube family plan is a fairly cheap way to access a lot of content. You also get access to Youtube Music which is... fine. That's less than $5 per user per month. If you are already there a few hours a week, it's a steal.
What's funny is that creators and Youtube get much more than 2x the amount of earnings from $5 than from all the ads you were being served. If more people paid, creators would probably resort to fewer of the much, much worse VPN or game ads that get hard-baked right into the vids.
- hulitu 2y ago> but do you think the people who make content on Youtube deserve to get paid for it but do you think the people who make content on Youtube get paid for it ? The vast majority of them, no. Remember how Youtube came to life ?
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- jareklupinski 2y ago> the people who make content on Youtube deserve to get paid for it? if Youtube Premium included SponsorBlock, I might pay for it
- adamomada 2y agoI agree with you but if YouTube proper included sponsor block, sponsors would no longer sponsor
- SebastianKra 2y agoI pay for Kagi and Nebula because these services actually give me a good experience for my money. The last time I tried YouTube Premium, I found out that the iOS app will frequently loose your last viewed video in the background, because I turned off the playback history. I would turn it on, except it is the only way of stopping Google from using your views for, you guessed it, targeted advertising. This makes sense, because Premium users are more attractive advertising targets. The only way to be truly safe is with an adblocker.
- jsnell 2y agoI feel like I'm missing something. "I turned off view history, and now the app isn't keeping any history of the views for me" seems like an odd complaint. But the actual way to stop Google from using your view for ad targeting is just turn off personalized ads. Or - in the unlikely case you object only to use of YouTube history but not other data - there appears to be a separate control just for that: https://myadcenter.google.com/u/1/controls/ads-data/youtube-history https://myadcenter.google.com/u/1/controls/ads-data/youtube-... If you don't trust those settings, why would you trust the setting to turn off history?
- falcolas 2y agoI paid for YouTube premium for a long time (and vocally advocated for others to do the same here on HN). Google enshittified the subscription so badly... increasing the cost significantly while adding unrelated services (like Google Music) and a dozen other things over the past... decade? The last straw was the most recent price increase for no benefit other than more revenue for Google. I unsubscribed, and mostly stay away from YouTube now. The value isn't worth the cost, whether its paid using with my attention or my dollars.
- ragingroosevelt 2y agoI paid for the family plan of YouTube Premium + Google Play Music up until Google decided they'd rather use the vastly inferior YouTube Music. NewPipe + GreyJay + Ublock Origin + Patreon seems like a reasonable compromise to Google's customer hostility.
- legitster 2y agoI don't love the UI of Youtube Music, but it came with a category killer feature for me: You can now grab tracks from any Youtube video. If you consider that any track or music video ever uploaded to Youtube is now in their library, available to be thrown in any offline playlist, that's pretty cool. I have a bunch of old Japanese jazz albums that never got US distribution in one playlist. I have a bunch of random vaporwave and remixes in another. And I have another that is ambient noises for sleeping on the road.
- beretguy 2y ago_THIS_ is the reason I and many people do not want to pay for YouTube.
- beretguy 2y ago_THIS_ is the reason I and many people do not want to pay for YouTube. I pay for Kagi because it does what I want it to and it doesn’t spy on me. With YouTube you get shitty product that spies on you.
- josephcsible 2y agoI'd be fine with ads in the search result pages, or above, below, or on the sides of the video. The only reason I insist on blocking them is that they keep me from watching the video.