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To be perfectly clear here, you think that a parent that buys this smart watch and tracks their kid's location will "oh absolutely" track their child's location

To be perfectly clear here, you think that a parent that buys this smart watch and tracks their kid's location will "oh absolutely" track their child's location into their 30s when they are old enough to have their own career and family? Can you explain why this completely abnormal behavior is an accurate prediction?

teddyh 2y ago
> Can you explain why this completely abnormal behavior is an accurate prediction? “Abnormal” is ambigous. It can either mean “unhealthy” or “uncommon”. I mean that this behavior, while unhealthy, is not uncommon. Most parents absolutely do not trust their kids to be adults, since in the eyes of the parents, the kids still are just that; kids. It takes an uncommonly strong sense of self-discipline and insight on the side of the parents to force themselves to break out of that thinking.
- CyberDildonics 2y ago
  Most parents absolutely do not trust their kids to be adults, Now you're either saying that 'most' parents track the live location of their children into their 30s or you're saying something vague and irrelevant. What are you saying exactly? This was about location tracking. It seems like you're either talking about your own irrelevant frustrations or you're saying things that you have no evidence of.
  - teddyh 2y ago
    > What are you saying exactly? This was about location tracking. The question, as posed by you, was whether a parent who was keeping track of their child while the child was very young, would still do so when the child comes of age and into adulthood. I proposed that the likelihood was very high indeed, since most parents have trouble reevaluating their perception of their child, even though that perception was formed and solidified while the child was very young. It follows, that parents would not see a good enough reason for deliberately altering their habitual tracking as the child turns into an adult.
    - CyberDildonics 2y ago
      keeping track of their child while the child was very young You keep avoiding saying location tracking. Are you seriously talking about location tracking an adult in their 30s? Say it directly. Are you saying this happens with knowledge or without? With consent or without? Are you saying parents are putting live location trackers on their 30 year old children's owned phones? Why do you keep ignoring the actual point and saying abstract irrelevant things like 'parents want to keep track of their children' ? Address the actual point and show some evidence.
      - teddyh 2y ago
        (Please keep this conversation about the topic and less about what you evidently consider some sort of personal conflict.) > You keep avoiding saying location tracking. Are you seriously talking about location tracking an adult in their 30s? Say it directly. Yes, of course. I did not intend to be obscure. > Are you saying this happens with knowledge or without? With consent or without? Are you saying parents are putting live location trackers on their 30 year old children's owned phones? I’m saying that parents will probably keep location trackers on their kids’ phones, and never get out of the habit of installing them, regardless of how their child ages into adulthood. Show me a parent who had such a tracker installed in a child’s phone, but go out of their way to make an effort to uninstall it the day the child turns 18, and I will show you a rare parent indeed. With or without knowledge and/or consent? Of course without their child’s consent; the parents originally put the tracker in the child’s phone without consent, and so the habit will continue. They key word in all of this is habit; parents acquire habits about their kids, and will continue to follow these habits regardless. The same goes for knowledge; if the child originally was always told about the tracking, this will continue, but if the child was never informed, this will also continue. Parents, like all people, are creatures of habit, and will not easily change their ways and opinions, even though time passes, things change, and children grow up. > Why do you keep ignoring the actual point and saying abstract irrelevant things like 'parents want to keep track of their children'? You are quoting something I did not write, and I can therefore not answer this question. > Address the actual point and show some evidence. If you think I am ignoring the point, please state what you would like the point to be, and I will comment on it as proper in this forum. Contrary to what you seem to believe, I am not trying to be obtuse. Regarding evidence, I am not aware of any research about any of this.

teddyh 2y ago

> Can you explain why this completely abnormal behavior is an accurate prediction? “Abnormal” is ambigous. It can either mean “unhealthy” or “uncommon”. I mean that this behavior, while unhealthy, is not uncommon. Most parents absolutely do not trust their kids to be adults, since in the eyes of the parents, the kids still are just that; kids. It takes an uncommonly strong sense of self-discipline and insight on the side of the parents to force themselves to break out of that thinking.

CyberDildonics 2y ago
Most parents absolutely do not trust their kids to be adults, Now you're either saying that 'most' parents track the live location of their children into their 30s or you're saying something vague and irrelevant. What are you saying exactly? This was about location tracking. It seems like you're either talking about your own irrelevant frustrations or you're saying things that you have no evidence of.
- teddyh 2y ago
  > What are you saying exactly? This was about location tracking. The question, as posed by you, was whether a parent who was keeping track of their child while the child was very young, would still do so when the child comes of age and into adulthood. I proposed that the likelihood was very high indeed, since most parents have trouble reevaluating their perception of their child, even though that perception was formed and solidified while the child was very young. It follows, that parents would not see a good enough reason for deliberately altering their habitual tracking as the child turns into an adult.
  - CyberDildonics 2y ago
    keeping track of their child while the child was very young You keep avoiding saying location tracking. Are you seriously talking about location tracking an adult in their 30s? Say it directly. Are you saying this happens with knowledge or without? With consent or without? Are you saying parents are putting live location trackers on their 30 year old children's owned phones? Why do you keep ignoring the actual point and saying abstract irrelevant things like 'parents want to keep track of their children' ? Address the actual point and show some evidence.
    - teddyh 2y ago
      (Please keep this conversation about the topic and less about what you evidently consider some sort of personal conflict.) > You keep avoiding saying location tracking. Are you seriously talking about location tracking an adult in their 30s? Say it directly. Yes, of course. I did not intend to be obscure. > Are you saying this happens with knowledge or without? With consent or without? Are you saying parents are putting live location trackers on their 30 year old children's owned phones? I’m saying that parents will probably keep location trackers on their kids’ phones, and never get out of the habit of installing them, regardless of how their child ages into adulthood. Show me a parent who had such a tracker installed in a child’s phone, but go out of their way to make an effort to uninstall it the day the child turns 18, and I will show you a rare parent indeed. With or without knowledge and/or consent? Of course without their child’s consent; the parents originally put the tracker in the child’s phone without consent, and so the habit will continue. They key word in all of this is habit; parents acquire habits about their kids, and will continue to follow these habits regardless. The same goes for knowledge; if the child originally was always told about the tracking, this will continue, but if the child was never informed, this will also continue. Parents, like all people, are creatures of habit, and will not easily change their ways and opinions, even though time passes, things change, and children grow up. > Why do you keep ignoring the actual point and saying abstract irrelevant things like 'parents want to keep track of their children'? You are quoting something I did not write, and I can therefore not answer this question. > Address the actual point and show some evidence. If you think I am ignoring the point, please state what you would like the point to be, and I will comment on it as proper in this forum. Contrary to what you seem to believe, I am not trying to be obtuse. Regarding evidence, I am not aware of any research about any of this.