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> IIUC, Cruise has pretty much also always been legit? https://www.forbes.com/sites/cyrusfarivar/2023/12/04/judge-asks-cruise-why-it-misled-regulators-over-oct

• vineyardmike 2y ago
  Lying to judges seem like a time honored tradition from big companies. Google has done it, Tesla has done it. Doesn’t make it less legit.
  • dataflow 2y ago
    > Lying to judges seem like a time honored tradition from big companies. Google has done it, Tesla has done it. Doesn’t make it less legit. "Lying to judges" (do you mean withholding material information from regulators?) is not something I'm aware of Waymo doing. (Again, links welcome -- and remember Waymo is not Google.) Nor is it a binary thing. It's one thing to cover up e.g. anti-competitive behavior in the free market, but quite another thing to cover up how you might've actually killed a person on the street.
• zellyn 2y ago
  Oh, oops. I guess I meant "legitimately trying to solve the full problem" rather than "not a bunch of weasels" :-)