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Several years ago, I used to respond to conversations where people hated on Facebook by saying that Facebook had given us at least two great gifts — react and g

Several years ago, I used to respond to conversations where people hated on Facebook by saying that Facebook had given us at least two great gifts — react and graphql. Since then, I've grown to realize that these might in fact be its two great curses.

chrisandchris 2y ago
What do you dislike about React?
- azangru 2y ago
  Performance. Alex Russell, formerly of Google and now the product owner of Microsoft Edge loves to rant about it. His latest rant is how Edge has significantly improved the performance of some of its UI features by moving off React [0]. [0] https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2024/05/28/an-even-faster-microsoft-edge/ https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2024/05/28/an-even-faste...
  - diggan 2y ago
    > [0] https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2024/05/28/an-even-faster-microsoft-edge/ https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2024/05/28/an-even-faste... Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but React isn't mentioned in that post. Maybe you put the wrong URL?
    - azangru 2y ago
      Odd, I thought I saw something about React in Microsoft's communications as well. Anyway, here is the horse's mouth: https://toot.cafe/@slightlyoff/112521248529973776 https://toot.cafe/@slightlyoff/112521248529973776
      - chrisandchris 2y ago
        As I read this thread, it's not like "React was the issue, let's move to [other framework]", it's more like moving closer to the plattform brought a performance boost. And that's something I would totally agree. Moving from WebUI to native UIs would even be more performant, and if one would care that much about performance (as said in the thread), one would probably not look at WebUI/Electron/Browser at all and prefer native apps.
      - yCombLinks 2y ago
        The options we have today are not the options we had at the time Facebook introduced React. React solved tons of browser shortcomings that are finally being fixed in the actual browser.
        squidsoup 2y ago
        I don't think that's true, web components are not equivalent to libraries like react and vue.
        azangru 2y ago
        Web components are approximately where react was in 2014. Which is pretty usable.

chrisandchris 2y ago

What do you dislike about React?

azangru 2y ago
Performance. Alex Russell, formerly of Google and now the product owner of Microsoft Edge loves to rant about it. His latest rant is how Edge has significantly improved the performance of some of its UI features by moving off React [0]. [0] https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2024/05/28/an-even-faster-microsoft-edge/ https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2024/05/28/an-even-faste...
- diggan 2y ago
  > [0] https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2024/05/28/an-even-faster-microsoft-edge/ https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2024/05/28/an-even-faste... Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but React isn't mentioned in that post. Maybe you put the wrong URL?
  - azangru 2y ago
    Odd, I thought I saw something about React in Microsoft's communications as well. Anyway, here is the horse's mouth: https://toot.cafe/@slightlyoff/112521248529973776 https://toot.cafe/@slightlyoff/112521248529973776
    - chrisandchris 2y ago
      As I read this thread, it's not like "React was the issue, let's move to [other framework]", it's more like moving closer to the plattform brought a performance boost. And that's something I would totally agree. Moving from WebUI to native UIs would even be more performant, and if one would care that much about performance (as said in the thread), one would probably not look at WebUI/Electron/Browser at all and prefer native apps.
    - yCombLinks 2y ago
      The options we have today are not the options we had at the time Facebook introduced React. React solved tons of browser shortcomings that are finally being fixed in the actual browser.
      - squidsoup 2y ago
        I don't think that's true, web components are not equivalent to libraries like react and vue.
        azangru 2y ago
        Web components are approximately where react was in 2014. Which is pretty usable.