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Apparently line goes up also includes "locals must be my friends". I mean, I didn't want to be very harsh in the comment above but the stuff that not only I've

Apparently line goes up also includes "locals must be my friends". I mean, I didn't want to be very harsh in the comment above but the stuff that not only I've read, but I've been told, is hard to ignore. My GF was having a very difficult moment financially early this year. We reached out to our foreign friends asking for help, because we know they're better connected, some work in companies where her experience is valued, etc. I mean, it wasn't like a moonshot, we tried to make sense. Completely cold shoulder. This is people we've know for about 2 years at least. She got the job because of a spanish friend told some other spanish friend that has a company in hospitality. Another Italian friend tried to help too, and the portuguese ones, well, they're barely surviving so... I mean, there's a clear line I can draw here. I don't want to point fingers and that's our personal experience, but I mean, it isn't the only imput that lead us to feel like we're just entertaining. But then I have to be their friend, and play local, or I'm rude. IDK man.

medo-bear 2y ago
Reading your comments gave me goose bumps. So many of these tourists treat the locals like a paid experience. It is disgusting
- Ekaros 2y ago
  And at same time tell everyone how great job they are doing by brining money to local economy while at the same time generating substantial issues for it and the local communities.
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  Tourists treating locals like a paid experience, is more to do with a lack of empathy and education from their families, plus a huge entitlement since they tell themselves that if they spend money somewhere they're the customers and they've been taught by the capitalist system that made their fortunes that "the customer is always right". They probably treat service workers in their home countries just the same.
coolThingsFirst 2y ago
Meh "networking". I had this conversation with a newly made friend of mine who has a lot more knowledge, connections and experience. The convo was headed to networking and I asked him what's the point in networking if the other person is not willing to share their experience or connections - like the vast mojority of them aren't. (including even family members due to envy) At the end of the day it's always best to connect with people from your own culture because they are more likely to honestly share tips as opposed to random jimmies.
- spaniard89277 2y ago
  I'm just trying to fight my negative feelings about this people, because I've actually provided advice on how to set themselves up in this place, got leads for their businesses. I didn't felt we were super friends, but you know, maybe I expected something more. They weren't random jimmies.
raverbashing 2y ago
> But then I have to be their friend, and play local, or I'm rude. I'm not saying you're wrong, far from it, but I've noticed that in Spain a lot of locals go to these language exchange events, where in other countries it's not the case. And I agree with your expectation to not need to 'pamper' the visitors. (of course they're welcome and I've talked to some of them - though it is my impression they kept a bit distant). Cultural clashes are hard.
- spaniard89277 2y ago
  But these people weren't tourists, they are living here now. I wouldn't mind if they were some random people saying for a few weeks or months, but this is people I've known for ~2y and we've done stuff out of meetups. Not to mention that the've reached for help and I did indeed help them.
  - raverbashing 2y ago
    Yeah, I can see why this sucks :/

medo-bear 2y ago

Reading your comments gave me goose bumps. So many of these tourists treat the locals like a paid experience. It is disgusting

Ekaros 2y ago
And at same time tell everyone how great job they are doing by brining money to local economy while at the same time generating substantial issues for it and the local communities.
Rinzler89 2y ago
Tourists treating locals like a paid experience, is more to do with a lack of empathy and education from their families, plus a huge entitlement since they tell themselves that if they spend money somewhere they're the customers and they've been taught by the capitalist system that made their fortunes that "the customer is always right". They probably treat service workers in their home countries just the same.

coolThingsFirst 2y ago

Meh "networking". I had this conversation with a newly made friend of mine who has a lot more knowledge, connections and experience. The convo was headed to networking and I asked him what's the point in networking if the other person is not willing to share their experience or connections - like the vast mojority of them aren't. (including even family members due to envy) At the end of the day it's always best to connect with people from your own culture because they are more likely to honestly share tips as opposed to random jimmies.

spaniard89277 2y ago
I'm just trying to fight my negative feelings about this people, because I've actually provided advice on how to set themselves up in this place, got leads for their businesses. I didn't felt we were super friends, but you know, maybe I expected something more. They weren't random jimmies.

raverbashing 2y ago

> But then I have to be their friend, and play local, or I'm rude. I'm not saying you're wrong, far from it, but I've noticed that in Spain a lot of locals go to these language exchange events, where in other countries it's not the case. And I agree with your expectation to not need to 'pamper' the visitors. (of course they're welcome and I've talked to some of them - though it is my impression they kept a bit distant). Cultural clashes are hard.

spaniard89277 2y ago
But these people weren't tourists, they are living here now. I wouldn't mind if they were some random people saying for a few weeks or months, but this is people I've known for ~2y and we've done stuff out of meetups. Not to mention that the've reached for help and I did indeed help them.
- raverbashing 2y ago
  Yeah, I can see why this sucks :/