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The typical 'its all government conspiracy' nonsense. As usual the government isn't actually as smart as people pretend. And contrary what people like to beli
by panick21_ 2y ago
The typical 'its all government conspiracy' nonsense.
As usual the government isn't actually as smart as people pretend.
And contrary what people like to believe. The government is not the only organization that has a brain. The idea of having many sats and having constellations has not only occurred to the government. So the idea 'constellation' therefore its invented by the government, is brain dead dumb. Its a logically idea based on the physics of the situation.
And Griffin in these stories is way more involved and fundamental then he actually was. He was doing some consulting but he and Musk frequently clashed and didn't get along. Before modern SpaceX really got of the ground he had left. And after that he was not that favorable towards SpaceX. And today Griffin is giving talks how the government should be giving SpaceX money for Starship.
It was absolutely not Griffin that pushed for the Commercial Crew, that came out of other parts of NASA. Griffin wasn't the driver of it. Neither was he much involved with Commercial Crew.
Starlink happened literally more then a decade later with no involvement from Griffin. And Starlink primary revenue is from consumers, not from the military. And it was primarily funded by private funding rounds that SpaceX did.
The reality is Musk achieved something nobody thought was actually gone happen. And once he did the government was like 'oh shit we should jump on this'. Just as they did with reusable rockets.Yes Starlink/Starshield will make money from governments in the future. But that doesn't actually validate this story.
The idea that the US government had a long term coherent plan is utterly delusional if you understand anything about the history of SpaceX and space flight in the US.
The main evidence seems to be 'Mike Griffin' was vaguely involved in various ways.
So the whole narrative is just nonsense and doesn't even remotely hold up.
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- throw9474 2y agoThe continued goal of realizing SDI is not secret, nor a conspiracy. Heritage Foundation is quite open about it since proposing the original idea to Ronald Reagan. Griffin is a very influential member. He just pulled a team of SpaceX people (from the Starshield group) to build hypersonic warheads to implement the interceptor part of an SDI "at scale": https://www.castelion.com/team https://www.castelion.com/team As someone else said, follow what these people DO, not the self-serving narratives they/Elon gives biographers.
- panick21_ 2y agoAgain, your argument is that the SpaceX is somehow a result of SDI and that SpaceX exist because of it. That developments at SpaceX are somehow done because of SDI or in service of it. And that is fundamentally false. Literally 90% of all space starups are full of former SpaceX people. Of course every now startup in space is recruiting people from SpaceX. That utterly meaningless for your argument. > As someone else said, follow what these people DO, not the self-serving narratives they/Elon gives biographers. You mean actually verifiable facts rather then conjecture based on a narrative that you tell yourself. Yeah why would we want facts. You are observing all the typical conspiracy theory hallmarks. Congratulations. If you actually did some more research, if any DoD program is responsible for small launch companies like SpaceX popping up, it would be 'responsive launch'. After 9/11 the realized that they didn't have enough assets above the Middle East and started to investigate small launch to address cases like that. That is when work like that stared and small launch companies mostly hoped to get into that. Of course it never actually turned about to be a big thing. But DoD is still working on stuff around that but it never been a big market. https://fireflyspace.com/news/firefly-selected-to-demonstrate-launch-and-on-orbit-services-for-u-s-defense-innovation-unit-diu/ https://fireflyspace.com/news/firefly-selected-to-demonstrat...