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I wish titles on HN would clarify the platform for limited releases like this. This is iOS exclusive.

by wraptile 2y ago

wilg 2y ago
Hell hath no fury like an Android user spurned.
- wraptile 2y ago
  Nah all software should be multi platform if possible. Locking programs in to some specific brand is just silly and you don't even need to be a open software extremist to acknowledge that. Also not mentioning the platform anywhere in the title or even article body itself is inheritly deceiving.
  - wilg 2y ago
    I think its okay for people not to do twice the work to support a type of phone they don't care about or use. Who is this deceiving? You figured it out, clearly. I think you're more mad than reasonable here.
    - wraptile 2y ago
      I figured it out after reading the half of their ad and navigating around their website where the platform isn't mentioned anywhere explicitly. Of course I'm mad for having my time wasted. This opaque obscurity feels almost like a dark pattern for farming more engagement and SEO. Also transparency in a discussions forum is objectively a good thing so extending the title would clearly be beneficial to everyone involved.
    - drittich 2y ago
      While your original comment might be taken as funny, this one quickly devolved into a strawman argument ending in a personal attack. Was that your intention?
      - wilg 2y ago
        It's not a strawman but it is an attack on what this person said. I don't think they are being reasonable.
    - hbn 2y ago
      From what I've heard about camera APIs, making an app like this for Android would be much MUCH more than twice the work, and also probably would become 98% of your support tickets because X feature doesn't work on the Samsung Galaxy J5 Skyrocket Plus LTE when running a custom ROM from XDA Developers. Someone from the company said in another thread it's already enough of a hassle dealing with all the possible camera configurations across different iPhone models, and iOS updates breaking things. I think there's a reason you don't see apps like this on Android.
  - theshrike79 2y ago
    This isn't multi platform for a reason: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40525040 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40525040 They're having issues with even the iPhone's variance in APIs they need. I can't imagine how bad it'd be if they had to support all the different Android hardware and OS version combinations.
- alexdns 2y ago
  Globally android has a 70% market share.
  - tristor 2y ago
    Only due to cost, the majority of that share is not devices that are capable of doing what would be required for an app like Kino to work with these features. The share of flagship Android devices worldwide is lower than flagship iOS devices.
moffkalast 2y ago
I'm not sure if most Android manufacturers support recording in raw which would be the closest analogue to this proprietary log format, so it's not like they could even make it if they wanted to.
mrandish 2y ago
Similar apps on Android offering direct RAW format recording include MotionCam Pro and Mcpro24fps. While compatibility depends on the phone, most recent (~ 4 yrs) models from Samsung, Google, Sony and several others are compatible. I think this covers >90% of Android phones.

I wish titles on HN would clarify the platform for limited releases like this. This is iOS exclusive.

wilg 2y ago

Hell hath no fury like an Android user spurned.

wraptile 2y ago
Nah all software should be multi platform if possible. Locking programs in to some specific brand is just silly and you don't even need to be a open software extremist to acknowledge that. Also not mentioning the platform anywhere in the title or even article body itself is inheritly deceiving.
- wilg 2y ago
  I think its okay for people not to do twice the work to support a type of phone they don't care about or use. Who is this deceiving? You figured it out, clearly. I think you're more mad than reasonable here.
  - wraptile 2y ago
    I figured it out after reading the half of their ad and navigating around their website where the platform isn't mentioned anywhere explicitly. Of course I'm mad for having my time wasted. This opaque obscurity feels almost like a dark pattern for farming more engagement and SEO. Also transparency in a discussions forum is objectively a good thing so extending the title would clearly be beneficial to everyone involved.
  - drittich 2y ago
    While your original comment might be taken as funny, this one quickly devolved into a strawman argument ending in a personal attack. Was that your intention?
    - wilg 2y ago
      It's not a strawman but it is an attack on what this person said. I don't think they are being reasonable.
  - hbn 2y ago
    From what I've heard about camera APIs, making an app like this for Android would be much MUCH more than twice the work, and also probably would become 98% of your support tickets because X feature doesn't work on the Samsung Galaxy J5 Skyrocket Plus LTE when running a custom ROM from XDA Developers. Someone from the company said in another thread it's already enough of a hassle dealing with all the possible camera configurations across different iPhone models, and iOS updates breaking things. I think there's a reason you don't see apps like this on Android.
- theshrike79 2y ago
  This isn't multi platform for a reason: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40525040 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40525040 They're having issues with even the iPhone's variance in APIs they need. I can't imagine how bad it'd be if they had to support all the different Android hardware and OS version combinations.
alexdns 2y ago
Globally android has a 70% market share.
- tristor 2y ago
  Only due to cost, the majority of that share is not devices that are capable of doing what would be required for an app like Kino to work with these features. The share of flagship Android devices worldwide is lower than flagship iOS devices.

moffkalast 2y ago

I'm not sure if most Android manufacturers support recording in raw which would be the closest analogue to this proprietary log format, so it's not like they could even make it if they wanted to.

mrandish 2y ago

Similar apps on Android offering direct RAW format recording include MotionCam Pro and Mcpro24fps. While compatibility depends on the phone, most recent (~ 4 yrs) models from Samsung, Google, Sony and several others are compatible. I think this covers >90% of Android phones.