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Where did I say it wasn't racist? I'm asking you who you believe he was talking about with the rapists and murderers statement. Some people think Trump said "Me

Where did I say it wasn't racist? I'm asking you who you believe he was talking about with the rapists and murderers statement. Some people think Trump said "Mexicans are rapists and murderers", which is why I'm asking.

alistairSH 2y ago
He claimed Mexico was sending mostly rapists and criminals. And possibly some good people too. It was unquestionably a racist statement, so I’m confused why a reporter calling it such is somehow controversial.
- IncreasePosts 2y ago
  I don't know, it doesn't seem racist to me, it seems more like an (incorrect) comment on the type of people who cross the border illegally, which is only a fraction of all Mexicans. > When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people I can't imagine undoubtedly racist people, like saying the Grand Master of the KKK, making a statement like that and then throwing in a comment about how some black people are good people.
  - fgd135 2y ago
    "[He] has gathered millions of the dirty, immoral, drunken, filthy-mouthed, lazy and repulsive people sneeringly called 'n***' and inspired them to the point where they are clean, sober, honest, hard working, dignified, dedicated and admirable human beings in spite of their color..." - George Lincoln Rockwell on Elijah Muhammad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lincoln_Rockwell#Black_separatism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lincoln_Rockwell#Black_...
- Log_out_ 2y ago
  There is however a sad true core, most dangerous, poor or authoritarian places produce young repeat offenders who then migrate away from that place when draconian punishment looms. Europe its marroko, algeria and egypt. Then again, a ton of them use this chance to turn their lifes around..
- HocusLocus 2y ago
  He was referring to specifically MS-13 gang members, a phenomenon that ironically originated in California but became a machismo thing in MX and Central America. And he was referring to individuals who had committed heinous crimes and also just happened to have body art that proclaimed their involvement in these gangs. It is something no public figure of any party would refrain from noticing. So a bunch of deceitful journalists got together and decided to "pretend" ignorance of the context and generalize his remarks. Trump correctly and righteously declared the MS-13 violent criminals were "animals". They pretended that he had declared it about migrants in general and clipped him saying "animals" with little surrounding context. Find the whole section of speech and see if he really said anything you'd disagree with.
  - alistairSH 2y ago
    Here's the full transcript of that speech... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/06/16/full-text-donald-trump-announces-a-presidential-bid/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/06... Nowhere does he mention MS-13 by name or even hint at them. Just an awkward transition from Japanese cars and Chevrolets to Mexico sending criminals across the border.
    - HocusLocus 2y ago
      > Here's the full transcript of that speech [...] Nowhere does he mention MS-13 by name or even hint at them. He doesn't mention "animals" in that one either. The "animals" thing resulted from queries to Trump over his policy to deport violent criminals. This video contains 3 clips: https://www.bitchute.com/video/K7N9aNfp8e2z/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/K7N9aNfp8e2z/ 0-0:17 , a clip from a deceptively edited video presentation at the 2020 Democratic Convention where a young girl alleges she is "an orphan because of you" and Trump's only response is to scream "They're animals!" 0:17-0:37 , from a press conference. Animals refers to MS-13 who have committed violent crimes. 0:37-1:04 , from a rally: "So Bob Casey, doesn't mind MS-13 coming in. These are the 'slicers' [slicing gesture], they slice people up and they're... and you remember I told them 'animal' and Nancy Pelosi scolded me. 'How DARE he call another human being an animal.' They're animals!" So that is the clip the DNC used. I wonder if they told the little girl that Trump was referring to people who stab and cut others. Or just her parents.

alistairSH 2y ago

He claimed Mexico was sending mostly rapists and criminals. And possibly some good people too. It was unquestionably a racist statement, so I’m confused why a reporter calling it such is somehow controversial.

IncreasePosts 2y ago
I don't know, it doesn't seem racist to me, it seems more like an (incorrect) comment on the type of people who cross the border illegally, which is only a fraction of all Mexicans. > When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people I can't imagine undoubtedly racist people, like saying the Grand Master of the KKK, making a statement like that and then throwing in a comment about how some black people are good people.
- fgd135 2y ago
  "[He] has gathered millions of the dirty, immoral, drunken, filthy-mouthed, lazy and repulsive people sneeringly called 'n***' and inspired them to the point where they are clean, sober, honest, hard working, dignified, dedicated and admirable human beings in spite of their color..." - George Lincoln Rockwell on Elijah Muhammad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lincoln_Rockwell#Black_separatism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lincoln_Rockwell#Black_...
Log_out_ 2y ago
There is however a sad true core, most dangerous, poor or authoritarian places produce young repeat offenders who then migrate away from that place when draconian punishment looms. Europe its marroko, algeria and egypt. Then again, a ton of them use this chance to turn their lifes around..
HocusLocus 2y ago
He was referring to specifically MS-13 gang members, a phenomenon that ironically originated in California but became a machismo thing in MX and Central America. And he was referring to individuals who had committed heinous crimes and also just happened to have body art that proclaimed their involvement in these gangs. It is something no public figure of any party would refrain from noticing. So a bunch of deceitful journalists got together and decided to "pretend" ignorance of the context and generalize his remarks. Trump correctly and righteously declared the MS-13 violent criminals were "animals". They pretended that he had declared it about migrants in general and clipped him saying "animals" with little surrounding context. Find the whole section of speech and see if he really said anything you'd disagree with.
- alistairSH 2y ago
  Here's the full transcript of that speech... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/06/16/full-text-donald-trump-announces-a-presidential-bid/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/06... Nowhere does he mention MS-13 by name or even hint at them. Just an awkward transition from Japanese cars and Chevrolets to Mexico sending criminals across the border.
  - HocusLocus 2y ago
    > Here's the full transcript of that speech [...] Nowhere does he mention MS-13 by name or even hint at them. He doesn't mention "animals" in that one either. The "animals" thing resulted from queries to Trump over his policy to deport violent criminals. This video contains 3 clips: https://www.bitchute.com/video/K7N9aNfp8e2z/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/K7N9aNfp8e2z/ 0-0:17 , a clip from a deceptively edited video presentation at the 2020 Democratic Convention where a young girl alleges she is "an orphan because of you" and Trump's only response is to scream "They're animals!" 0:17-0:37 , from a press conference. Animals refers to MS-13 who have committed violent crimes. 0:37-1:04 , from a rally: "So Bob Casey, doesn't mind MS-13 coming in. These are the 'slicers' [slicing gesture], they slice people up and they're... and you remember I told them 'animal' and Nancy Pelosi scolded me. 'How DARE he call another human being an animal.' They're animals!" So that is the clip the DNC used. I wonder if they told the little girl that Trump was referring to people who stab and cut others. Or just her parents.