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Let's not play games with semantics. You know quite well what is implied. No one asks a specific question like that (with loaded language like 'racist') unless

Let's not play games with semantics. You know quite well what is implied. No one asks a specific question like that (with loaded language like 'racist') unless they expect action.

lisper 2y ago
Journalists do.
- colechristensen 2y ago
  Everything journalists do is for attention. Stirring up fake controversy for views is not something to be respected.
alistairSH 2y ago
Trump did call Mexicans rapists and murders (among other things). That’s unquestionably racist. There is nothing loaded about calling a spade a spade.
- IncreasePosts 2y ago
  Like, he said that at least one Mexican is a rapist or murderer? Or did he say all Mexicans are murderers and rapists? Or something else? Please don't show me the quote. I know it. I want to hear your understanding of the quote, and how you can square it with how you described the quote.
  - alistairSH 2y ago
    So, the statement wasn’t racist? Sure thing bud.
    - IncreasePosts 2y ago
      Where did I say it wasn't racist? I'm asking you who you believe he was talking about with the rapists and murderers statement. Some people think Trump said "Mexicans are rapists and murderers", which is why I'm asking.
      - alistairSH 2y ago
        He claimed Mexico was sending mostly rapists and criminals. And possibly some good people too. It was unquestionably a racist statement, so I’m confused why a reporter calling it such is somehow controversial.
        IncreasePosts 2y ago
        I don't know, it doesn't seem racist to me, it seems more like an (incorrect) comment on the type of people who cross the border illegally, which is only a fraction of all Mexicans. > When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people I can't imagine undoubtedly racist people, like saying the Grand Master of the KKK, making a statement like that and then throwing in a comment about how some black people are good people.
        fgd135 2y ago
        "[He] has gathered millions of the dirty, immoral, drunken, filthy-mouthed, lazy and repulsive people sneeringly called 'n***' and inspired them to the point where they are clean, sober, honest, hard working, dignified, dedicated and admirable human beings in spite of their color..." - George Lincoln Rockwell on Elijah Muhammad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lincoln_Rockwell#Black_separatism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lincoln_Rockwell#Black_...
        Log_out_ 2y ago
        There is however a sad true core, most dangerous, poor or authoritarian places produce young repeat offenders who then migrate away from that place when draconian punishment looms. Europe its marroko, algeria and egypt. Then again, a ton of them use this chance to turn their lifes around..
        HocusLocus 2y ago
        He was referring to specifically MS-13 gang members, a phenomenon that ironically originated in California but became a machismo thing in MX and Central America. And he was referring to individuals who had committed heinous crimes and also just happened to have body art that proclaimed their involvement in these gangs. It is something no public figure of any party would refrain from noticing. So a bunch of deceitful journalists got together and decided to "pretend" ignorance of the context and generalize his remarks. Trump correctly and righteously declared the MS-13 violent criminals were "animals". They pretended that he had declared it about migrants in general and clipped him saying "animals" with little surrounding context. Find the whole section of speech and see if he really said anything you'd disagree with.
  - mc32 2y ago
    Don't worry, these are the kinds of people who also claim phrases like 'basket of deplorables' and 'people who cling to guns and religion' as well as “they’re worried that they’ll be vaccinated and deported.” or "That’s like saying you... before you got in this program, you’re take a test whether you’re taking cocaine or not... What do you think? Huh? Are you a junkie?” are racist --obviously.

Let's not play games with semantics. You know quite well what is implied. No one asks a specific question like that (with loaded language like 'racist') unless they expect action.

lisper 2y ago

Journalists do.

colechristensen 2y ago
Everything journalists do is for attention. Stirring up fake controversy for views is not something to be respected.

alistairSH 2y ago

Trump did call Mexicans rapists and murders (among other things). That’s unquestionably racist. There is nothing loaded about calling a spade a spade.

IncreasePosts 2y ago
Like, he said that at least one Mexican is a rapist or murderer? Or did he say all Mexicans are murderers and rapists? Or something else? Please don't show me the quote. I know it. I want to hear your understanding of the quote, and how you can square it with how you described the quote.
- alistairSH 2y ago
  So, the statement wasn’t racist? Sure thing bud.
  - IncreasePosts 2y ago
    Where did I say it wasn't racist? I'm asking you who you believe he was talking about with the rapists and murderers statement. Some people think Trump said "Mexicans are rapists and murderers", which is why I'm asking.
    - alistairSH 2y ago
      He claimed Mexico was sending mostly rapists and criminals. And possibly some good people too. It was unquestionably a racist statement, so I’m confused why a reporter calling it such is somehow controversial.
      - IncreasePosts 2y ago
        I don't know, it doesn't seem racist to me, it seems more like an (incorrect) comment on the type of people who cross the border illegally, which is only a fraction of all Mexicans. > When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people I can't imagine undoubtedly racist people, like saying the Grand Master of the KKK, making a statement like that and then throwing in a comment about how some black people are good people.
        fgd135 2y ago
        "[He] has gathered millions of the dirty, immoral, drunken, filthy-mouthed, lazy and repulsive people sneeringly called 'n***' and inspired them to the point where they are clean, sober, honest, hard working, dignified, dedicated and admirable human beings in spite of their color..." - George Lincoln Rockwell on Elijah Muhammad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lincoln_Rockwell#Black_separatism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lincoln_Rockwell#Black_...
      - Log_out_ 2y ago
        There is however a sad true core, most dangerous, poor or authoritarian places produce young repeat offenders who then migrate away from that place when draconian punishment looms. Europe its marroko, algeria and egypt. Then again, a ton of them use this chance to turn their lifes around..
      - HocusLocus 2y ago
        He was referring to specifically MS-13 gang members, a phenomenon that ironically originated in California but became a machismo thing in MX and Central America. And he was referring to individuals who had committed heinous crimes and also just happened to have body art that proclaimed their involvement in these gangs. It is something no public figure of any party would refrain from noticing. So a bunch of deceitful journalists got together and decided to "pretend" ignorance of the context and generalize his remarks. Trump correctly and righteously declared the MS-13 violent criminals were "animals". They pretended that he had declared it about migrants in general and clipped him saying "animals" with little surrounding context. Find the whole section of speech and see if he really said anything you'd disagree with.
- mc32 2y ago
  Don't worry, these are the kinds of people who also claim phrases like 'basket of deplorables' and 'people who cling to guns and religion' as well as “they’re worried that they’ll be vaccinated and deported.” or "That’s like saying you... before you got in this program, you’re take a test whether you’re taking cocaine or not... What do you think? Huh? Are you a junkie?” are racist --obviously.