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Something irks me about volunteers spending real money to support all the OSS freeloading businesses. I'm talking about companies with a market cap in the $Bill

Something irks me about volunteers spending real money to support all the OSS freeloading businesses. I'm talking about companies with a market cap in the $Billions. Almost none of them can be bothered to kick back even a modicum of financial support to the authors of the software that runs their business, and to add insult to injury, they in fact soak the members of community who distribute the binaries for their bandwidth.

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BSDobelix 2y ago
How about just support community distributions? ...and no, Fedora is non of them. Just stop support brand's and corporation's if you don't get paid?
mardifoufs 2y ago
Does Redhat pay for fedora's infra? Genuine question and I'm not saying it's better either. It's just that it would be weird for fedora to operate on volunteer/donated infra when it's quite important to red hat, considering it's the "upstream" (not sure if that's the correct term here) of RHEL
- steelframe 2y ago
  From TFA: > The massive uptick in Fedora/EPEL activity puts additional pressure on Fedora web proxies for mirror data and then the mirrors themselves that tend to be volunteer run. Much of this new traffic is coming from the Amazon/AWS cloud.
  - mardifoufs 2y ago
    Ah I read the article but I wasn't sure what they meant by volunteer (for example individuals only or corporate too) run in this context. Your interpretation makes sense though!
quaintdev 2y ago
I wonder why Amazon did not create their own mirror. They would sync with Fedora mirrors once. All aws traffic can then go to their own mirrors. Isn't that sensible thing to do?
- rincebrain 2y ago
  So, let's say you set up an EL7 system with stock everything, and then enable epel with dnf install epel-release or equivalent. You now get the stock epel mirror listing, not a custom package Amazon rewrote, and they'd need to add a custom mirror that provides an override for that package to make it work that way. So I would _guess_ one or more large companies migrated a bunch of things onto cloud hosted EL7-based system after EOL meant god help you finding new hardware support. (I would also guess either EPEL doesn't have a mirror on Amazon or it should have auto-picked it, or the auto-picker is bad, and either way, Amazon will probably go "oh our bad", since I believe they host local mirrors of things anyway...)
- coredog64 2y ago
  AWS CodeArtifact doesn’t support RPM. Have your TAM +1 the PFR for RPM support. Then all those AWS customers running AL2 or RHEL 8 can use a secure, local-to-the-VPC mirror.
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BSDobelix 2y ago

How about just support community distributions? ...and no, Fedora is non of them. Just stop support brand's and corporation's if you don't get paid?

mardifoufs 2y ago

Does Redhat pay for fedora's infra? Genuine question and I'm not saying it's better either. It's just that it would be weird for fedora to operate on volunteer/donated infra when it's quite important to red hat, considering it's the "upstream" (not sure if that's the correct term here) of RHEL

steelframe 2y ago
From TFA: > The massive uptick in Fedora/EPEL activity puts additional pressure on Fedora web proxies for mirror data and then the mirrors themselves that tend to be volunteer run. Much of this new traffic is coming from the Amazon/AWS cloud.
- mardifoufs 2y ago
  Ah I read the article but I wasn't sure what they meant by volunteer (for example individuals only or corporate too) run in this context. Your interpretation makes sense though!

quaintdev 2y ago

I wonder why Amazon did not create their own mirror. They would sync with Fedora mirrors once. All aws traffic can then go to their own mirrors. Isn't that sensible thing to do?

rincebrain 2y ago
So, let's say you set up an EL7 system with stock everything, and then enable epel with dnf install epel-release or equivalent. You now get the stock epel mirror listing, not a custom package Amazon rewrote, and they'd need to add a custom mirror that provides an override for that package to make it work that way. So I would _guess_ one or more large companies migrated a bunch of things onto cloud hosted EL7-based system after EOL meant god help you finding new hardware support. (I would also guess either EPEL doesn't have a mirror on Amazon or it should have auto-picked it, or the auto-picker is bad, and either way, Amazon will probably go "oh our bad", since I believe they host local mirrors of things anyway...)
coredog64 2y ago
AWS CodeArtifact doesn’t support RPM. Have your TAM +1 the PFR for RPM support. Then all those AWS customers running AL2 or RHEL 8 can use a secure, local-to-the-VPC mirror.

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