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It's hilarious how emotionally invested you are in something you did not attend, and knew no one there. If anyone is spewing shit, it's you mate. Calm down an

It's hilarious how emotionally invested you are in something you did not attend, and knew no one there. If anyone is spewing shit, it's you mate. Calm down and get a hobby.

adamomada 2y ago
I personally know two people who travelled from Toronto area to attend. I couldn’t because of a shitty situation but followed along with the live YouTube casts, which (for anyone who cares) will prove you wrong I Know you are full of shit, therefore I know you know you are full of shit My hobby is calling bullshit and it is fun. There’s so much of it! Edit: for extra context, the two people who took major time out of their lives to do this, one was in the Canadian Forces when they were younger (not at the time obv) and the other came to Canada in the early 90s after their government wrecked their country and was watching in horror of it happening to them again
- richardlblair 2y ago
  You're full of shit.
Manuel_D 2y ago
Can you elaborate on what you mean by, "their goal was to overthrow the democratically elected Government"? This could mean a whole lot of things, like voting out the incumbents in the next election - and sure I'll readily believe that the protestors were calling for that. But "overthrow" reads to me like the protestors sought to forcefully remove and replace the existing government. In other words, a coup. That is a very different statement, and one I would really like you to substantiate with evidence if that's what you're trying to claim.
- richardlblair 2y ago
  The protesters held Ottawa captive while demanding the current democratically elected government be replaced by the government of their liking, without an election. It was very similar to the first few days of the Easter Uprising in Ireland in 1916, except with trucks. A large group of people held key infrastructure hostage, with unreasonable demands that would not be met. Those claiming otherwise need everyone to believe their side is the victim.
  - naasking 2y ago
    > The protesters held Ottawa captive while demanding the current democratically elected government be replaced by the government of their liking, without an election. I asked for a citation. If this is literally what the protest organizers did, then it should be easy to provide one. Their official Facebook page where they published their official position is still up.
    - richardlblair 2y ago
      You know as much as I do that finding 2 yr old content is brutal. Especially given the volume of shitty media coverage the convoy received. If you care enough about challenging your own beliefs, and if it's so easy, you'll do it yourself. I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to convince random strangers on the internet. I know better.
  - Manuel_D 2y ago
    > while demanding the current democratically elected government be replaced by the government of their liking, without an election Do you have any evidence for this beyond simply postulating it as fact? I'd be really interested in seeing who in the convoy, and what proportion of people, were making these demands. And no, it was not like the Easter Uprising. The Easter Uprising saw armed insurrectionists kill over a hundred government personnel and hundreds of civilians. This kind of comparison does not give me confidence in your analysis of the protest.
    - richardlblair 2y ago
      If you read Agony at Easter by Thomas Coffee, which has a minute by minute account, you will see the importance of 'first few days'. There are many many simularities.
      - Manuel_D 2y ago
        For the third time the central claim in your comments, that the Ottawa protestors sought to overthrow the government, remains completely unsubstantiated. Who said this, and on what basis is it a fair characterization of the >10,000 people who attended the protest?

It's hilarious how emotionally invested you are in something you did not attend, and knew no one there. If anyone is spewing shit, it's you mate. Calm down and get a hobby.

adamomada 2y ago

I personally know two people who travelled from Toronto area to attend. I couldn’t because of a shitty situation but followed along with the live YouTube casts, which (for anyone who cares) will prove you wrong I Know you are full of shit, therefore I know you know you are full of shit My hobby is calling bullshit and it is fun. There’s so much of it! Edit: for extra context, the two people who took major time out of their lives to do this, one was in the Canadian Forces when they were younger (not at the time obv) and the other came to Canada in the early 90s after their government wrecked their country and was watching in horror of it happening to them again

richardlblair 2y ago
You're full of shit.

Manuel_D 2y ago

Can you elaborate on what you mean by, "their goal was to overthrow the democratically elected Government"? This could mean a whole lot of things, like voting out the incumbents in the next election - and sure I'll readily believe that the protestors were calling for that. But "overthrow" reads to me like the protestors sought to forcefully remove and replace the existing government. In other words, a coup. That is a very different statement, and one I would really like you to substantiate with evidence if that's what you're trying to claim.

richardlblair 2y ago
The protesters held Ottawa captive while demanding the current democratically elected government be replaced by the government of their liking, without an election. It was very similar to the first few days of the Easter Uprising in Ireland in 1916, except with trucks. A large group of people held key infrastructure hostage, with unreasonable demands that would not be met. Those claiming otherwise need everyone to believe their side is the victim.
- naasking 2y ago
  > The protesters held Ottawa captive while demanding the current democratically elected government be replaced by the government of their liking, without an election. I asked for a citation. If this is literally what the protest organizers did, then it should be easy to provide one. Their official Facebook page where they published their official position is still up.
  - richardlblair 2y ago
    You know as much as I do that finding 2 yr old content is brutal. Especially given the volume of shitty media coverage the convoy received. If you care enough about challenging your own beliefs, and if it's so easy, you'll do it yourself. I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to convince random strangers on the internet. I know better.
- Manuel_D 2y ago
  > while demanding the current democratically elected government be replaced by the government of their liking, without an election Do you have any evidence for this beyond simply postulating it as fact? I'd be really interested in seeing who in the convoy, and what proportion of people, were making these demands. And no, it was not like the Easter Uprising. The Easter Uprising saw armed insurrectionists kill over a hundred government personnel and hundreds of civilians. This kind of comparison does not give me confidence in your analysis of the protest.
  - richardlblair 2y ago
    If you read Agony at Easter by Thomas Coffee, which has a minute by minute account, you will see the importance of 'first few days'. There are many many simularities.
    - Manuel_D 2y ago
      For the third time the central claim in your comments, that the Ottawa protestors sought to overthrow the government, remains completely unsubstantiated. Who said this, and on what basis is it a fair characterization of the >10,000 people who attended the protest?