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I have some problems, hope someone corrects or enlightens me: > images and videos sent to others will be scanned automatically and possibly reported to the EU
by WesolyKubeczek 2y ago
I have some problems, hope someone corrects or enlightens me:
> images and videos sent to others will be scanned automatically and possibly reported to the EU and the police.
I would like to know what exactly “reported to the EU” is. As far as I know, EU is not some nebulous eye in the sky, and certainly is not in the business of judging file uploads. Thus, a new body of authority needs to be formed, its competencies defined, as well as the rules of it interacting with the member states.
By necessity, this upload judge won’t be sifting or monitoring any individual Jean-Paul Mrkvička across the platforms. More likely, it will monitor how much suspicious stuff gets reported from which platform, and go after the outliers. Say, Telegram would be far more likely to raise the sus-o-meter than iMessage.
Then, it remains to be seen how the said organ would deal with suspected under-reporting by the platform or conflicts with GDPR or, say, German privacy laws which are stronger in places.
Then the question about the police. Which police is it supposed to be? Europol? Local police in the member states? The latter will surely invite the inevitable increase in mandatory paperwork and bogus reports. After a few false positives, I bet if the police gets handed down reports and those reports are not about people already suspected from some other sources, they will be swept under the rug and allowed to rot by any police officer with a little bit of wrinkly brain. It’s as if they don’t already have enough paperwork to deal with and, you know, real actual crimes to solve. Sure they will come knocking a couple times to innocent folks who sent beach photos with their kids in frame to the in-laws, but that’s until they find ways to work around these reports.
Correct me if I’m wrong, please, but I feel pretty confident it will go this way.
> images and videos that are deemed potentially suspicious by ‘artificial intelligence’ technology.
This is some unbounded optimism about reliability and accuracy of any “AI” to date, must I say.
- pseudalopex 2y agoThe European Commission's proposal included a body it called the EU Centre to work with Europol.[1] The report template includes IP address, port number, postal code, GPS data, username, email address, phone number, mailing address, profile information, other email addresses, other phone numbers, billing information, last login date, and other user information. Why did you assume it would not? Reports would be forwarded to Europol and member state law enforcement authorities. > The latter will surely invite the inevitable increase in mandatory paperwork and bogus reports. After a few false positives, I bet if the police gets handed down reports and those reports are not about people already suspected from some other sources, they will be swept under the rug and allowed to rot by any police officer with a little bit of wrinkly brain. Was this meant to comfort anyone? > It’s as if they don’t already have enough paperwork to deal with and, you know, real actual crimes to solve. Child sexual abuse is a real crime. Some child pornography investigations have led to prosecutions for child sexual abuse. Many legislators, police, prosecutors, and members of the public believe even virtual child pornography is a slippery slope to real child sexual abuse and reject any evidence pointing the other way. They consider possession a real crime even if you do not. Law enforcement authorities supported this proposal. Most oppose surveillance rarely or never. [1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:52022PC0209 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...
- WesolyKubeczek 2y agoLaw enforcement officials think it will help them fight crime, yes. The people who support this, though, are not the same people who have to go after whomever computer said needs going after and fill paperwork afterwards. If the “artificial intelligence” sending police after some beach photos shared with relatives, or photos sent to doctors turns out to be worse than a coin toss and sending them on a wild goose chase more often than not, bullshit reports will ensue to make all involved parties happy.
- pseudalopex 2y agoDo you have evidence investigators oppose this proposal?