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I don't get how any of this was a shock. A lot of vaccines are mandated when you're in the public school system. Most people in the US have gotten these "mandat

I don't get how any of this was a shock. A lot of vaccines are mandated when you're in the public school system. Most people in the US have gotten these "mandated" shots without much complaint in the past. So much of this seems like rationalization of a purely reflexive reaction to the idea that there's any kind of social responsibility. Consider the similar backlash to mask mandates. I didn't like wearing a mask, but it's not a huge imposition. Some people treated it like it was greatest injustice they'd ever experienced though. And then they went on to rationalize this emotional reaction by making up shit about masks cutting off their oxygen supply or causing brain damage, etc. All this despite the fact that wearing a mask (or even a respirator) is necessary for a big chunk of the day in many jobs ranging from construction workers to surgeons.

lynx23 2y ago
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- AlexandrB 2y ago
  Are you aware of the testing they did before releasing the vaccine? It's not like they cooked it up in the lab on Monday and started injecting the entire population on Friday. Not to mention that it was not even available for individuals outside of high-risk groups for several months after release. I'm sorry to hear about your experiences with the medical system. It's certainly not good at treating patients with respect - even today. But consider that if the vast majority of the population was willing to get the COVID vaccine voluntarily the mandates would not be necessary. People like yourself would likely be able to opt out freely thanks to herd immunity. In a lot of ways my main feeling about COVID is disappointment. COVID was an opportunity for people to come together and make a small sacrifice to contribute to protecting the weakest among us. Instead it turned into an everyone-for-themselves shitshow. I remember visiting Hong Kong in 2008 and I was amazed to see how many people wore surgical masks in public. This was probably carry over from the SARS outbreak in 2003. To me it showed a high level of care and empathy for others that people were willing to set aside their own comfort to try to prevent spreading whatever cold of flu they were carrying. I wish we could adopt some of that attitude here in North America.
- markhahn 2y ago
  if you think newness of a technology, by itself, is a valid argument, you are merely anti-science, anti-rational. however, I'm most curious to hear of "left-over" Nazis practicing in the 80s. however, I agree that the medical establishment is an absurd archaism.
  - lynx23 2y ago
    You can throw labels around as much as you like. My opinion is still my opinion. Call me stupid, anti-*, dumb, whatever you like. Sticks and stones you know. This way of labeling people with a different opinion is another thing I consider very very dangerous. But apparently, if it is done by left leaning people, it is always a good thing tm.

lynx23 2y ago

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AlexandrB 2y ago
Are you aware of the testing they did before releasing the vaccine? It's not like they cooked it up in the lab on Monday and started injecting the entire population on Friday. Not to mention that it was not even available for individuals outside of high-risk groups for several months after release. I'm sorry to hear about your experiences with the medical system. It's certainly not good at treating patients with respect - even today. But consider that if the vast majority of the population was willing to get the COVID vaccine voluntarily the mandates would not be necessary. People like yourself would likely be able to opt out freely thanks to herd immunity. In a lot of ways my main feeling about COVID is disappointment. COVID was an opportunity for people to come together and make a small sacrifice to contribute to protecting the weakest among us. Instead it turned into an everyone-for-themselves shitshow. I remember visiting Hong Kong in 2008 and I was amazed to see how many people wore surgical masks in public. This was probably carry over from the SARS outbreak in 2003. To me it showed a high level of care and empathy for others that people were willing to set aside their own comfort to try to prevent spreading whatever cold of flu they were carrying. I wish we could adopt some of that attitude here in North America.
markhahn 2y ago
if you think newness of a technology, by itself, is a valid argument, you are merely anti-science, anti-rational. however, I'm most curious to hear of "left-over" Nazis practicing in the 80s. however, I agree that the medical establishment is an absurd archaism.
- lynx23 2y ago
  You can throw labels around as much as you like. My opinion is still my opinion. Call me stupid, anti-*, dumb, whatever you like. Sticks and stones you know. This way of labeling people with a different opinion is another thing I consider very very dangerous. But apparently, if it is done by left leaning people, it is always a good thing tm.