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There are a lot of problems with making this argument, though. Ultimately our government lacks the necessary powers. Remember, those people travelled to Ottawa
by richardlblair 2y ago
There are a lot of problems with making this argument, though. Ultimately our government lacks the necessary powers. Remember, those people travelled to Ottawa with the stated mission of overthrowing the Government. They also used their horns in a densely populated area, which an ENT doctor confirmed exposed the citizens of Downtown Ottawa to volumes that can damage the inner ear. This is without taking into consideration those with disabilities, like Autism, which can make such sensations exceptionally difficult.
Then things get super messy when you start to look at how the province deals with indigenous populations, their protests, versus a group of white nationalists attempting to overthrow the Government.
The fact the emergency powers were used, to me, are a symptom of a broken system.
Either way, opposing political powers are jumping all over the opportunity to leverage the situation for their own gain.
I'm so sick of politics. They are all dishonest. No matter what, we lose.
- naasking 2y ago> Remember, those people travelled to Ottawa with the stated mission of overthrowing the Government. No. > versus a group of white nationalists attempting to overthrow the Government. Also no, not white nationalists.
- adamomada 2y agoThe horns died down after a few short days, after a reasonable concession was made. I have a feeling hardly any Canadians at all know what really happened in Ottawa even though there was and is extensive live video evidence streamed and stored on YouTube.
- richardlblair 2y agoLet's park 100 trucks outside your house for 'a few short days' and blast their horns. Then you can tell me if those days are short or not. I have friends who live downtown Ottawa. I know exactly what went on. I know what flags were on display. People need to stop down playing what happened.
- adamomada 2y agoIf I lived downtown Ottawa and likely worked for the federal government I would be extra sympathetic to any protest at all. I would have to appreciate a democracy in order to work for such agencies, which apparently your buddies don’t.
- richardlblair 2y agoYou've twisted the definition of democracy to suit your needs. Very typical behavior of convoy supporters like yourself.
- richardlblair 2y agoFurthermore more, demonstrating your deep knowledge of Ottawa. Federal government workers generally live in Kanata and Orleans. Some work downtown, but generally it is a lot of private sector.
- ImJamal 2y ago> a group of white nationalists Do you have any proof of this or are you just being libelous? > attempting to overthrow the Government. If honking horns is enough to overthrow a government then the government is way to weak to exist.
- frabbit 2y agoThey also used their horns in a densely populated area, which an ENT doctor confirmed exposed the citizens of Downtown Ottawa to volumes that can damage the inner ear. Are there any actual examples of people making claims about going deaf due to the protests? Doctors == generally low information value unless they have training in science or mathematics.
- jmb99 2y agoI personally measured over 90dB in a friend’s apartment downtown. NIOSH recommends exposure to levels above 90dB for less than 30 minutes per (work) day. She said it was that loud 24/7, and I believe that. If you have some evidence that it’s safe to listen to sound levels above 90dB for extended periods of time, I’d recommend you publish it.
- frabbit 2y agoThat's not what I asked. I am asking whether there is even any serious claim (as opposed to your simple assertion) that someone's hearing was damaged.
- richardlblair 2y agoAgain, I'm not going to go searching the internet. Engaging in these comments is already more work than is worth it. I'm never going to convince convoy supporters they are wrong. A woman took legal action against the protestors. In her action she called on an ENT. The ENT make the statements I outlined above under oath. Search for it if you actually care. Again, I'm not wasting my time because nothing is ever good enough for the people who align ideologically with the convoy. The dismissiveness, what aboutisms, and misdirection that follow are never worth the effort.
- frabbit 2y agoAgain, I'm not going to go searching the internet. Yet you imply that others should do exactly that in order to take seriously your insinuation that actual bodily harm was incurred. If you have proof that someone was physically damaged by the blowing of the truck horns then it will a simple thing for you supply this information of which you have implied you are the possessor. If you do not have it and have never had it then you could also help by just stating that, so that no one wastes their time.