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Alas with the rise of the Internet and e-commerce, bookstores have been on a slow but firm downward trend.

dangus 2y ago
This is factually incorrect, independent bookstores are increasing in number. https://apnews.com/article/independent-bookstores-membership-growth-66678667daa1e0529ffe6ad9c7273459 https://apnews.com/article/independent-bookstores-membership...
- samatman 2y ago
  This reply is factually irrelevant, a minor bounce back from pandemic closures is unrelated to the fact that the spread of e-commerce lead to massive closures of bookstores a couple decades ago. They have by no means recovered to anything resembling their pre-Amazon numbers.
  - dangus 2y ago
    Growth since 2009 Page 8 (PDF) https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/20-068_c19963e7-506c-479a-beb4-bb339cd293ee.pdf https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/20-068_c19963e7-... Please note that I never claimed they had “Amazon numbers.” I never claimed that they were as prevalent as they were pre-e-commerce. I’m merely stating that a “slow but firm downward trend” is not correct.
    - bee_rider 2y ago
      > They have by no means recovered to anything resembling their pre-Amazon numbers. > Please note that I never claimed they had “Amazon numbers.” I never claimed that they were as prevalent as they were pre-e-commerce. You seem to be arguing different points here (despite the quotes). They are talking about the bookstores returning to their own pre-Amazon numbers.
      - dangus 2y ago
        No, the person I originally replied to described the alleged “slow and firm downward trend” of bookstores since e-commerce came around. However, after an initial decline due to competition from e-commerce, independent bookstores have been growing since 2009. The person who replied to me would have been correct if they were posting their comment in the mid-2000s, but their statement has not been true since 2009. I provided sources and data to back myself up and nobody arguing against my point has. I have not at any point changed the argument I am making nor have I moved any goal posts. The entirety of my argument is that in recent years independent booksellers have been on an upward trend. I never made any claim about their sales compared to Amazon. I never claimed that the industry never faced decline. I am merely fact checking the original statement that the industry is allegedly in a downward trend.
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This is factually incorrect, independent bookstores are increasing in number. https://apnews.com/article/independent-bookstores-membership-growth-66678667daa1e0529ffe6ad9c7273459 https://apnews.com/article/independent-bookstores-membership...

samatman 2y ago
This reply is factually irrelevant, a minor bounce back from pandemic closures is unrelated to the fact that the spread of e-commerce lead to massive closures of bookstores a couple decades ago. They have by no means recovered to anything resembling their pre-Amazon numbers.
- dangus 2y ago
  Growth since 2009 Page 8 (PDF) https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/20-068_c19963e7-506c-479a-beb4-bb339cd293ee.pdf https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/20-068_c19963e7-... Please note that I never claimed they had “Amazon numbers.” I never claimed that they were as prevalent as they were pre-e-commerce. I’m merely stating that a “slow but firm downward trend” is not correct.
  - bee_rider 2y ago
    > They have by no means recovered to anything resembling their pre-Amazon numbers. > Please note that I never claimed they had “Amazon numbers.” I never claimed that they were as prevalent as they were pre-e-commerce. You seem to be arguing different points here (despite the quotes). They are talking about the bookstores returning to their own pre-Amazon numbers.
    - dangus 2y ago
      No, the person I originally replied to described the alleged “slow and firm downward trend” of bookstores since e-commerce came around. However, after an initial decline due to competition from e-commerce, independent bookstores have been growing since 2009. The person who replied to me would have been correct if they were posting their comment in the mid-2000s, but their statement has not been true since 2009. I provided sources and data to back myself up and nobody arguing against my point has. I have not at any point changed the argument I am making nor have I moved any goal posts. The entirety of my argument is that in recent years independent booksellers have been on an upward trend. I never made any claim about their sales compared to Amazon. I never claimed that the industry never faced decline. I am merely fact checking the original statement that the industry is allegedly in a downward trend.
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