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Over 100 Buddhist universities have been found across India Pakistan Bangladesh Afghanistan etc .. How many do you think they should cover? Also several Mahavih

Over 100 Buddhist universities have been found across India Pakistan Bangladesh Afghanistan etc .. How many do you think they should cover? Also several Mahaviharas exist which are now serving as X-ishwara temples, where votive stupas are being worshipped as Shivas ling (phallus). The whole of India was a major buddhist educational hub. Nalanda was the most famous because several chinese travellers have studied in it, which makes it very important. As there notes is our source to determine Indias Buddhist past.

cscurmudgeon 2y ago
Any evidence of the linga claim.
- pankajdoharey 2y ago
  As you may know the story Shivas Phallus was cut by Indra, and now Hindus Worship the fallen penis of their deity from puranas being cut by another deity of the vedas. What kind of person would write such stories and then go ahead and worship the fallen penis of its god? No respect for its own deity? Because its not their deity. Brahman exist purely for the donations to temples. If people stop giving donations Brahman will occupy something else for donations. Buddhist caves with votive stupa: https://www.bandhavgarh-national-park.com/blog/buddhist-caves-bandhavgarh/ https://www.bandhavgarh-national-park.com/blog/buddhist-cave... Nigallakonda https://www.alamy.com/view-of-ruin-of-ancient-group-of-stupas-at-lingala-konda-buddhist-cave-sankaram-anakapalle-andhra-pradesh-india-image554419495.html https://www.alamy.com/view-of-ruin-of-ancient-group-of-stupa... Votive stupas with faces of make and female bodhisattvas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingam#/media/File:4_Buddha_and_Shiva_Linga_Vajrayana_Buddhism.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingam#/media/File:4_Buddha_an... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/1_Buddha_and_Shiva_Linga_Nepal_Vajrayana_Buddhism.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/1_Buddha... Why Buddhas face on this claimed shivalinga: https://www.nortonsimon.org/art/detail/F.1972.11.2.S https://www.nortonsimon.org/art/detail/F.1972.11.2.S https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhalinga#/media/File:Five_Head_Shivalinga_at_Budhanilkantha.JPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhalinga#/media/File:Five_He... https://www.civilsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/macintosh-hdusersshikharsachandesktopmaps4lin.png https://www.civilsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/macin... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhalinga#/media/File:Five_Head_Shivalinga_at_Budhanilkantha.JPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhalinga#/media/File:Five_He... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/025_Shiva_Linga_with_Face_%2832881354053%29.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/025_Shiv... Claimed as shivalinga, can you explain why the buddhas hand mudra: https://static.india.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Nepal-1.jpg https://static.india.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Nepal-1.... Who are these characters 2 males and one female? https://i.pinimg.com/736x/08/00/fc/0800fc34453462c46a78dc99f2bd36ea.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/736x/08/00/fc/0800fc34453462c46a78dc99f... Is this shivas face on his own phallus? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/38242 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/38242 Broken votive stupa at the same Kapilvastu buddhist site : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Shiva_Linga_Kudan_Buddha_Kapilvastu_Taulihawa_Lumbini_Zone_Nepal._Rajesh_Dhungana.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Shiva_Li... Large Stupas , Dhamek Stupa https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Dhamekh_Stupa%2C_where_the_Buddha_gave_the_first_sermon_on_the_Four_Noble_Truths_and_the_Eightfold_Path_to_his_five_disciples%2C_Sarnath.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Dhamekh_... Stupas on teh Sanchi Hill: https://asearchformore.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/stupas-on-the-hill-sanchi/ https://asearchformore.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/stupas-on-th... Other votive stupas: https://framemark.vam.ac.uk/collections/2006AM4892/full/1400,/0/default.jpg https://framemark.vam.ac.uk/collections/2006AM4892/full/1400... https://www.vajiramias.com/current-affairs/what-is-a-votive-stupa/63c4fd6694ef2105bfc4772a/ https://www.vajiramias.com/current-affairs/what-is-a-votive-... https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/votive-stupas-in-bhaja-caves-gm1150087309-311217242 https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/votive-stupas-in-bhaja-cav... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenyadri#/media/File:Lenyadri_Ganesha.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenyadri#/media/File:Lenyadri_... https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/votive-stupas-in-bhaja-caves-gm1150087309-311217242 https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/votive-stupas-in-bhaja-cav... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ypB5i7VGArQ/oar2.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ypB5i7VGArQ/oar2.jpg https://youtu.be/ypB5i7VGArQ https://youtu.be/ypB5i7VGArQ https://www.alamy.com/votive-stupa-with-four-buddhas-culture-india-bihar-dimensions-h-8-12-in-216-cm-w-6-14-in-159-cm-d-6-14-in-159-cm-date-10th-11th-century-small-stupas-such-as-this-example-were-placed-near-massive-stupas-containing-the-ashes-of-the-buddha-by-this-time-the-connection-between-the-historic-buddha-shakyamuni-who-revealed-the-buddhist-teachings-on-earth-and-the-buddha-vairochana-who-resides-in-heaven-was-known-from-texts-and-accepted-in-religious-practice-the-dome-of-the-stupa-simultaneously-represents-shakyamunis-relics-and-vairochanas-celestial-presence-the-fo-image213197080.html https://www.alamy.com/votive-stupa-with-four-buddhas-culture... Votive stupas inside Ranpur Buddhist caves are being claimed as shivas phallus: https://youtu.be/3vzGBxjG9E8 https://youtu.be/3vzGBxjG9E8 Forced occupation of the cave by claiming a wall to be Ganesha: https://youtu.be/ypB5i7VGArQ https://youtu.be/ypB5i7VGArQ Bhadrakali Temple Itkhori stupa worshipped as shivalinga: https://youtu.be/O22bc_UIxt0 https://youtu.be/O22bc_UIxt0 Tara devi converted to Hindu godess: https://youtu.be/6-FHiEA--x4 https://youtu.be/6-FHiEA--x4 The list goes on and on because brahman Dharma (Hinduism) had no sculpture art, it is banned in it. India is full of buddhist art with votive stupas having multiple faces of either Buddha or Bodhisattvas. Brahminism doesnt have sculpture infact it is banned in many texts, nor do they have any description of their gods. Shiva doesnt even exist in Vedas. The character Rudra being claimed as Shiva in Vedas is the god of Thunder storms in vedas. Most of all if it is such an important god why cut write a story of its penis cut by another lowly god of the vedas? The sculpture speaks for itself.
  - cscurmudgeon 2y ago
    This is a list of disrespectful, disconnected mix of facts and fictions which has flimsy grounding in reality and doesn’t address the main question I was asking, but I will engage in good faith. https://theprint.in/opinion/western-reading-of-shivalingam-as-phallic-symbol-is-incorrect-for-hindus-shiva-is-formless/971907/ https://theprint.in/opinion/western-reading-of-shivalingam-a... > As you may know the story Shivas Phallus was cut by Indra, and now Hindus Worship the fallen penis of their deity from puranas being cut by another deity of the vedas. What kind of person would write such stories and then go ahead and worship the fallen penis of its god? No normal Hindu knows or believes in this story. This is the first I have heard of it. Remember, only Vedas/Upanishads/Gita count as core scripture. Also, any religion will have a lot of conflicting stories that neither the lay populace nor scholars consider seriously. > Why Buddhas face on this claimed shivalinga How? I didn't know you had a photo of Buddha to say that is Buddha's face. Also, why does Buddha have three faces? Wasn't he human? (Tip: most ancient statues look alike facially) > Claimed as shivalinga, can you explain why the buddhas hand mudra Those mudras predate Buddha's birth by centuries. > Is this shivas face on his own phallus? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/38242 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/38242 No, Hindu considers the lingam to be a real phallus. I guess the mind sees what it wants to see. I don't understand how you went to eating a phallus from the image. Not every cylinder is a phallus. Hinduism is fluid due to accommodating scientific inquiry, I will let Sagan and Schopenhauer do the talking here. Because of this scientific/open nature, it has to be fluid. You will see names and stories change depending on current culture, language, events as stories and names are merely symbolic (Rudra -> Shiva is not the damning attack you think it is). > “The Hindu religion is the only one of the world’s great faiths dedicated to the idea that the Cosmos itself undergoes an immense, indeed an infinite, number of deaths and rebirths. It is the only religion in which the time scales correspond to those of modern scientific cosmology. Its cycles run from our ordinary day and night to a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion years long. Longer than the age of the Earth or the Sun and about half the time since the Big Bang.” ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos > "Thus originated in the primitive ancestors of the Brahmans, the Rishis, the almost superhuman conceptions which were afterwards set down in the Upanishads of the Vedas." > schopenhauer https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/601581-the-hindu-religion-is-the-only-one-of-the-world-s https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/601581-the-hindu-religion-i... https://deeshaa.org/2021/01/02/schopenhauer-on-the-upanishads/ https://deeshaa.org/2021/01/02/schopenhauer-on-the-upanishad... Also, I am not going to respond to YouTube videos by cranks. I was hoping someone will respond with at least one peer reviewed article but ha ha I was being too optimistic lol.
poindi 2y ago
I want to respond regarding the lingam statement Like we can save data on a SD card, people tried to save positivity in a object, so that it can be shared with everyone, ling/lingam is made from a particular material and have a particular shape, the shape its just an oval, like a planets orbit around its star, even if you observe Buddhist stupa is bigger version of the same.. There are elaborate processes of how to install positivity in that, prana pratista or mantra pratista I have no scientific data on how to save positivity in an object , As a Vipassana meditator I feel my meditation session is very smooth when sitting around few Linga Ling in Sanskrit refers to a thing, like female and male are referred to as Stri-Ling (woman kind, not women phallus) and Purusha-Ling(man kind)... So Shiv-Ling mean It is representation of Shiva or what ever
- pankajdoharey 2y ago
  Lingam is not a representation it is indeed the phallus or penis that was severed by Indra. According to Brahminical stories. Please educate yourself. Multiple jyotirling apparently are the various fallen pieces of the penis of Shiva according to the Brahman.

cscurmudgeon 2y ago

Any evidence of the linga claim.

pankajdoharey 2y ago
As you may know the story Shivas Phallus was cut by Indra, and now Hindus Worship the fallen penis of their deity from puranas being cut by another deity of the vedas. What kind of person would write such stories and then go ahead and worship the fallen penis of its god? No respect for its own deity? Because its not their deity. Brahman exist purely for the donations to temples. If people stop giving donations Brahman will occupy something else for donations. Buddhist caves with votive stupa: https://www.bandhavgarh-national-park.com/blog/buddhist-caves-bandhavgarh/ https://www.bandhavgarh-national-park.com/blog/buddhist-cave... Nigallakonda https://www.alamy.com/view-of-ruin-of-ancient-group-of-stupas-at-lingala-konda-buddhist-cave-sankaram-anakapalle-andhra-pradesh-india-image554419495.html https://www.alamy.com/view-of-ruin-of-ancient-group-of-stupa... Votive stupas with faces of make and female bodhisattvas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingam#/media/File:4_Buddha_and_Shiva_Linga_Vajrayana_Buddhism.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingam#/media/File:4_Buddha_an... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/1_Buddha_and_Shiva_Linga_Nepal_Vajrayana_Buddhism.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/1_Buddha... Why Buddhas face on this claimed shivalinga: https://www.nortonsimon.org/art/detail/F.1972.11.2.S https://www.nortonsimon.org/art/detail/F.1972.11.2.S https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhalinga#/media/File:Five_Head_Shivalinga_at_Budhanilkantha.JPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhalinga#/media/File:Five_He... https://www.civilsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/macintosh-hdusersshikharsachandesktopmaps4lin.png https://www.civilsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/macin... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhalinga#/media/File:Five_Head_Shivalinga_at_Budhanilkantha.JPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhalinga#/media/File:Five_He... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/025_Shiva_Linga_with_Face_%2832881354053%29.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/025_Shiv... Claimed as shivalinga, can you explain why the buddhas hand mudra: https://static.india.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Nepal-1.jpg https://static.india.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Nepal-1.... Who are these characters 2 males and one female? https://i.pinimg.com/736x/08/00/fc/0800fc34453462c46a78dc99f2bd36ea.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/736x/08/00/fc/0800fc34453462c46a78dc99f... Is this shivas face on his own phallus? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/38242 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/38242 Broken votive stupa at the same Kapilvastu buddhist site : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Shiva_Linga_Kudan_Buddha_Kapilvastu_Taulihawa_Lumbini_Zone_Nepal._Rajesh_Dhungana.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Shiva_Li... Large Stupas , Dhamek Stupa https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Dhamekh_Stupa%2C_where_the_Buddha_gave_the_first_sermon_on_the_Four_Noble_Truths_and_the_Eightfold_Path_to_his_five_disciples%2C_Sarnath.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Dhamekh_... Stupas on teh Sanchi Hill: https://asearchformore.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/stupas-on-the-hill-sanchi/ https://asearchformore.wordpress.com/2014/11/12/stupas-on-th... Other votive stupas: https://framemark.vam.ac.uk/collections/2006AM4892/full/1400,/0/default.jpg https://framemark.vam.ac.uk/collections/2006AM4892/full/1400... https://www.vajiramias.com/current-affairs/what-is-a-votive-stupa/63c4fd6694ef2105bfc4772a/ https://www.vajiramias.com/current-affairs/what-is-a-votive-... https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/votive-stupas-in-bhaja-caves-gm1150087309-311217242 https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/votive-stupas-in-bhaja-cav... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenyadri#/media/File:Lenyadri_Ganesha.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenyadri#/media/File:Lenyadri_... https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/votive-stupas-in-bhaja-caves-gm1150087309-311217242 https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/votive-stupas-in-bhaja-cav... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ypB5i7VGArQ/oar2.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ypB5i7VGArQ/oar2.jpg https://youtu.be/ypB5i7VGArQ https://youtu.be/ypB5i7VGArQ https://www.alamy.com/votive-stupa-with-four-buddhas-culture-india-bihar-dimensions-h-8-12-in-216-cm-w-6-14-in-159-cm-d-6-14-in-159-cm-date-10th-11th-century-small-stupas-such-as-this-example-were-placed-near-massive-stupas-containing-the-ashes-of-the-buddha-by-this-time-the-connection-between-the-historic-buddha-shakyamuni-who-revealed-the-buddhist-teachings-on-earth-and-the-buddha-vairochana-who-resides-in-heaven-was-known-from-texts-and-accepted-in-religious-practice-the-dome-of-the-stupa-simultaneously-represents-shakyamunis-relics-and-vairochanas-celestial-presence-the-fo-image213197080.html https://www.alamy.com/votive-stupa-with-four-buddhas-culture... Votive stupas inside Ranpur Buddhist caves are being claimed as shivas phallus: https://youtu.be/3vzGBxjG9E8 https://youtu.be/3vzGBxjG9E8 Forced occupation of the cave by claiming a wall to be Ganesha: https://youtu.be/ypB5i7VGArQ https://youtu.be/ypB5i7VGArQ Bhadrakali Temple Itkhori stupa worshipped as shivalinga: https://youtu.be/O22bc_UIxt0 https://youtu.be/O22bc_UIxt0 Tara devi converted to Hindu godess: https://youtu.be/6-FHiEA--x4 https://youtu.be/6-FHiEA--x4 The list goes on and on because brahman Dharma (Hinduism) had no sculpture art, it is banned in it. India is full of buddhist art with votive stupas having multiple faces of either Buddha or Bodhisattvas. Brahminism doesnt have sculpture infact it is banned in many texts, nor do they have any description of their gods. Shiva doesnt even exist in Vedas. The character Rudra being claimed as Shiva in Vedas is the god of Thunder storms in vedas. Most of all if it is such an important god why cut write a story of its penis cut by another lowly god of the vedas? The sculpture speaks for itself.
- cscurmudgeon 2y ago
  This is a list of disrespectful, disconnected mix of facts and fictions which has flimsy grounding in reality and doesn’t address the main question I was asking, but I will engage in good faith. https://theprint.in/opinion/western-reading-of-shivalingam-as-phallic-symbol-is-incorrect-for-hindus-shiva-is-formless/971907/ https://theprint.in/opinion/western-reading-of-shivalingam-a... > As you may know the story Shivas Phallus was cut by Indra, and now Hindus Worship the fallen penis of their deity from puranas being cut by another deity of the vedas. What kind of person would write such stories and then go ahead and worship the fallen penis of its god? No normal Hindu knows or believes in this story. This is the first I have heard of it. Remember, only Vedas/Upanishads/Gita count as core scripture. Also, any religion will have a lot of conflicting stories that neither the lay populace nor scholars consider seriously. > Why Buddhas face on this claimed shivalinga How? I didn't know you had a photo of Buddha to say that is Buddha's face. Also, why does Buddha have three faces? Wasn't he human? (Tip: most ancient statues look alike facially) > Claimed as shivalinga, can you explain why the buddhas hand mudra Those mudras predate Buddha's birth by centuries. > Is this shivas face on his own phallus? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/38242 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/38242 No, Hindu considers the lingam to be a real phallus. I guess the mind sees what it wants to see. I don't understand how you went to eating a phallus from the image. Not every cylinder is a phallus. Hinduism is fluid due to accommodating scientific inquiry, I will let Sagan and Schopenhauer do the talking here. Because of this scientific/open nature, it has to be fluid. You will see names and stories change depending on current culture, language, events as stories and names are merely symbolic (Rudra -> Shiva is not the damning attack you think it is). > “The Hindu religion is the only one of the world’s great faiths dedicated to the idea that the Cosmos itself undergoes an immense, indeed an infinite, number of deaths and rebirths. It is the only religion in which the time scales correspond to those of modern scientific cosmology. Its cycles run from our ordinary day and night to a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion years long. Longer than the age of the Earth or the Sun and about half the time since the Big Bang.” ― Carl Sagan, Cosmos > "Thus originated in the primitive ancestors of the Brahmans, the Rishis, the almost superhuman conceptions which were afterwards set down in the Upanishads of the Vedas." > schopenhauer https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/601581-the-hindu-religion-is-the-only-one-of-the-world-s https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/601581-the-hindu-religion-i... https://deeshaa.org/2021/01/02/schopenhauer-on-the-upanishads/ https://deeshaa.org/2021/01/02/schopenhauer-on-the-upanishad... Also, I am not going to respond to YouTube videos by cranks. I was hoping someone will respond with at least one peer reviewed article but ha ha I was being too optimistic lol.

poindi 2y ago

I want to respond regarding the lingam statement Like we can save data on a SD card, people tried to save positivity in a object, so that it can be shared with everyone, ling/lingam is made from a particular material and have a particular shape, the shape its just an oval, like a planets orbit around its star, even if you observe Buddhist stupa is bigger version of the same.. There are elaborate processes of how to install positivity in that, prana pratista or mantra pratista I have no scientific data on how to save positivity in an object , As a Vipassana meditator I feel my meditation session is very smooth when sitting around few Linga Ling in Sanskrit refers to a thing, like female and male are referred to as Stri-Ling (woman kind, not women phallus) and Purusha-Ling(man kind)... So Shiv-Ling mean It is representation of Shiva or what ever

pankajdoharey 2y ago
Lingam is not a representation it is indeed the phallus or penis that was severed by Indra. According to Brahminical stories. Please educate yourself. Multiple jyotirling apparently are the various fallen pieces of the penis of Shiva according to the Brahman.