> Everything you say is pure rhetoric, meant to gatekeep who gets to "justify" their struggles with mental illness, which is what this whole debate is always ab

> Everything you say is pure rhetoric, meant to gatekeep who gets to "justify" their struggles with mental illness, which is what this whole debate is always about. Exactly - and there's no winning this argument at all with people like this. Say this hypothetical person (causing harm to who?) finally gets a real diagnosis from a real professional - people like this will often dismiss the diagnosis out of hand, with vague comments about how the DSM isn't "science" or that the doctor was incompetent, etc. I cannot help but feel that the root sentiment behind this stuff is a deep loathing for people struggling with mental illness - or at the very least a profound lack of empathy. I have never really understood it.