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> They realize that there is still a huge chunk of the market with people living in apartments without cheap possibility to charge the EV. If you have a design

> They realize that there is still a huge chunk of the market with people living in apartments without cheap possibility to charge the EV. If you have a designated parking spot, there are no technical reasons why you can't charge at home. Only political ones. Roadside parking is a problem. There are some attempted solutions (Type2 charging from light posts for example, but nothing that scales)

ajsnigrutin 2y ago
There is no technical reason you can't build a bridge from portugal to new york. The only question is, what is cheaper, literally billions of charging stations + all the needed infrastructure, or that bridge.
- theshrike79 2y ago
  My point was that if someone in an apartment complex with a dedicated parking spot has the money and willingness to install a charger, there are no technical reasons why they can't. Most likely either someone in building management or the landlord will block it from happening for some inane reason. Thus: politics is the reason why this isn't happening. Over here there are laws coming into place that every public parking location must have a certain percentage of chargers. It used to be voluntary (a recommendation), but companies were dragging their feet. Now it's not optional any more. It's not like adding a 22kW Type 2 charger will break the bank for any decent business. There are even businesses that'll 100% do it for you if you provide the parking spot - but they also take most of the profits.
NikolaNovak 2y ago
>>If you have a designated parking spot, there are no technical reasons why you can't charge at home. That's... "technically" correct, lol? There's no reason from perspective of natural laws of universe one cannot install a charger in the parking sport of their 30 year old 30 stories condominium or better yet apartment parking spot. There are a myriad legal, practical, procedural, permission, process, safety, standards, and other reasons. But you're technically correct, there are technically no technical reasons :).
- theshrike79 2y ago
  I live in a 40 year old apartment and have been charging in my parking spot for 2 years now. I pay 15€/month for the charger plus whatever electricity I use. Would’ve started sooner, but politics (apartment management) was in the way. The actual technical bit was about 3 hours of work by an electrician.
  - NikolaNovak 2y ago
    That's awesome to hear! Whereabouts are you?
    - theshrike79 2y ago
      Finland, we do have the advantage that every parking space since the 70's has had a 230V/8A plug for car block heaters and since about the 90's the minimum as increased to 16A to allow for separate car interior heaters that are around 1300-2500W. So charging an EV at 8A overnight is mostly just about politics (billing the correct amount), the technical solution is some measuring of the cabling (did the contractor use the good stuff or cheap out) and switching the existing pole for one with a metered one.

ajsnigrutin 2y ago

There is no technical reason you can't build a bridge from portugal to new york. The only question is, what is cheaper, literally billions of charging stations + all the needed infrastructure, or that bridge.

theshrike79 2y ago
My point was that if someone in an apartment complex with a dedicated parking spot has the money and willingness to install a charger, there are no technical reasons why they can't. Most likely either someone in building management or the landlord will block it from happening for some inane reason. Thus: politics is the reason why this isn't happening. Over here there are laws coming into place that every public parking location must have a certain percentage of chargers. It used to be voluntary (a recommendation), but companies were dragging their feet. Now it's not optional any more. It's not like adding a 22kW Type 2 charger will break the bank for any decent business. There are even businesses that'll 100% do it for you if you provide the parking spot - but they also take most of the profits.

NikolaNovak 2y ago

>>If you have a designated parking spot, there are no technical reasons why you can't charge at home. That's... "technically" correct, lol? There's no reason from perspective of natural laws of universe one cannot install a charger in the parking sport of their 30 year old 30 stories condominium or better yet apartment parking spot. There are a myriad legal, practical, procedural, permission, process, safety, standards, and other reasons. But you're technically correct, there are technically no technical reasons :).

theshrike79 2y ago
I live in a 40 year old apartment and have been charging in my parking spot for 2 years now. I pay 15€/month for the charger plus whatever electricity I use. Would’ve started sooner, but politics (apartment management) was in the way. The actual technical bit was about 3 hours of work by an electrician.
- NikolaNovak 2y ago
  That's awesome to hear! Whereabouts are you?
  - theshrike79 2y ago
    Finland, we do have the advantage that every parking space since the 70's has had a 230V/8A plug for car block heaters and since about the 90's the minimum as increased to 16A to allow for separate car interior heaters that are around 1300-2500W. So charging an EV at 8A overnight is mostly just about politics (billing the correct amount), the technical solution is some measuring of the cabling (did the contractor use the good stuff or cheap out) and switching the existing pole for one with a metered one.