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It’s even faster if you avoid a product with Microsoft bloat. What they’re been doing to Windows 11 with widgets, celebrity news, and failing to respect user’s

by cebert 2y ago

It’s even faster if you avoid a product with Microsoft bloat. What they’re been doing to Windows 11 with widgets, celebrity news, and failing to respect user’s default preferences is atrocious.

jmkni 2y ago
Totally agree. Other aspects of Windows are so good, such as WSL, but they completely ruin it with all of this.
- imjonse 2y ago
  So one of the main good aspects of Windows is that it can run Linux :) ?
  - moi2388 2y ago
    Linux and office. Other than that, what does it really offer?
  - SavageBeast 2y ago
    If edge is the browser you use for downloading Chrome, maybe Windows is the OS you use to get and install Linux? I feel sorry for people who's employers mandate Windows or are dependent on some Windows only critical software. I know its not everyones cup of tea but its really nice over here in MacBook land. If you're not somehow held hostage on Windows, maybe drop by a store sometime and give OSX a roll? I haven't been forced to run Windows in about 10 years and I haven't missed it one single time. Im not at all opposed to Linux either but I can run a real shell on OSX and all my scripts.sh run just the same locally as they do on my cloud Linux deployments - and thats enough for me personally.
    - nickserv 2y ago
      From one anti-consumer, anti-choice overlord to another? Yeah... I'll stick to open source, thanks.
    - imjonse 2y ago
      Use edge to download Firefox ;)
    - lodovic 2y ago
      To be fair, if you haven't used Windows at all in over a decade, you probably no longer have an informed view about it.
  - raxxorraxor 2y ago
    Indeed. Although to their defense Powershell is pretty decent as well, it just isn't as widely spread and not as universal as bash. Don't know if it conforms with posix, but that is doubtful. Still as solid tool. But all that doesn't help if the OS gets trashed by bad project leads and Microsoft seems to employ a lot of those. Their technical mistakes are dwarfed by their strategic ones. And companies being locked into their environment providing a record income probably don't help with Microsoft really trying to be competitive instead of milking users as much as possible.
- pathartl 2y ago
  Good thing you can disable all the bad things.
roywashere 2y ago
The extreme clickbaityness of the msn homepage that is in the browser and the start menu makes me have a very bad feeling about windows. I do not like it at all. I would assume the Windows PMs would not like it either but I guess someone has some target that they need to reach? I feel like it underscores what a cheap/bad product windows feels like. Even though, technically it is fine (and I know you can turn it off, but defaults matter!!)
- croes 2y ago
  >extreme clickbaityness of the msn homepage If clickbait was the only problem. The site is full of scam ads. It really shows how much MS cares about the users.

by cebert 2y ago

It’s even faster if you avoid a product with Microsoft bloat. What they’re been doing to Windows 11 with widgets, celebrity news, and failing to respect user’s default preferences is atrocious.

jmkni 2y ago

Totally agree. Other aspects of Windows are so good, such as WSL, but they completely ruin it with all of this.

imjonse 2y ago
So one of the main good aspects of Windows is that it can run Linux :) ?
- moi2388 2y ago
  Linux and office. Other than that, what does it really offer?
- SavageBeast 2y ago
  If edge is the browser you use for downloading Chrome, maybe Windows is the OS you use to get and install Linux? I feel sorry for people who's employers mandate Windows or are dependent on some Windows only critical software. I know its not everyones cup of tea but its really nice over here in MacBook land. If you're not somehow held hostage on Windows, maybe drop by a store sometime and give OSX a roll? I haven't been forced to run Windows in about 10 years and I haven't missed it one single time. Im not at all opposed to Linux either but I can run a real shell on OSX and all my scripts.sh run just the same locally as they do on my cloud Linux deployments - and thats enough for me personally.
  - nickserv 2y ago
    From one anti-consumer, anti-choice overlord to another? Yeah... I'll stick to open source, thanks.
  - imjonse 2y ago
    Use edge to download Firefox ;)
  - lodovic 2y ago
    To be fair, if you haven't used Windows at all in over a decade, you probably no longer have an informed view about it.
- raxxorraxor 2y ago
  Indeed. Although to their defense Powershell is pretty decent as well, it just isn't as widely spread and not as universal as bash. Don't know if it conforms with posix, but that is doubtful. Still as solid tool. But all that doesn't help if the OS gets trashed by bad project leads and Microsoft seems to employ a lot of those. Their technical mistakes are dwarfed by their strategic ones. And companies being locked into their environment providing a record income probably don't help with Microsoft really trying to be competitive instead of milking users as much as possible.
pathartl 2y ago
Good thing you can disable all the bad things.

roywashere 2y ago

The extreme clickbaityness of the msn homepage that is in the browser and the start menu makes me have a very bad feeling about windows. I do not like it at all. I would assume the Windows PMs would not like it either but I guess someone has some target that they need to reach? I feel like it underscores what a cheap/bad product windows feels like. Even though, technically it is fine (and I know you can turn it off, but defaults matter!!)

croes 2y ago
>extreme clickbaityness of the msn homepage If clickbait was the only problem. The site is full of scam ads. It really shows how much MS cares about the users.