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> you tend to loose the ability to "steer" your hearing Do people genuinely have that ability, to listen to a specific person and ignore the rest? Asking bec

> you tend to loose the ability to "steer" your hearing Do people genuinely have that ability, to listen to a specific person and ignore the rest? Asking because no matter how hard I try I can never understand a fucking thing if there's many people talking loudly in the background, it all mixes together into an incoherent whole.

andrelaszlo 2y ago
"Selective auditory attention is a normal sensory process of the brain, and there can be abnormalities related to this process in people with sensory processing disorders such as autism, attention deficit hyperactive disorder,[30] post traumatic stress disorder,[31] schizophrenia,[30] selective mutism,[32] and in stand-alone auditory processing disorders.[33]" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_auditory_attention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_auditory_attention
- moffkalast 2y ago
  Ah interesting, I must have dis or that order then.
  - nolongerthere 2y ago
    Yup I have mild ADHD and as the day wears on I find it harder to do this subconsciously. I need to start making a conscious effort to focus only on the person I’m speaking with and not the cross conversation happening at the same table.
glandium 2y ago
I can sometimes do that with instruments in music. Never for people.
KaiserPro 2y ago
> Do people genuinely have that ability Indeed! however like visual depth perception, not everyone has it. The human ear has a load of bits that allow removing noise from the signal. (I don't have a block diagram, sorry!) In theory one should be able to locate a noise in 3D. You can test this by getting someone to hide your phone and then ring it. if you have 3d sound perception you should be able to work out if the phone is behind/front/up/down.That forms part of the "steering" ability. Then there is filtering the noises that you don't want. Music is can be a good test for this, how many instruments played on this track, what instruments were they, what were the lyrics, etc. Being able to do this requires that you be able to filter out noises that you don't like. Again like all human senses, there are levels of ability, and in some cases can be improved with "exercise" But, hearing what people are saying against a loud background is really really hard, so don't worry too much. Plus voices have specific human social encoding, so they can be affected disproportionally

andrelaszlo 2y ago

"Selective auditory attention is a normal sensory process of the brain, and there can be abnormalities related to this process in people with sensory processing disorders such as autism, attention deficit hyperactive disorder,[30] post traumatic stress disorder,[31] schizophrenia,[30] selective mutism,[32] and in stand-alone auditory processing disorders.[33]" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_auditory_attention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_auditory_attention

moffkalast 2y ago
Ah interesting, I must have dis or that order then.
- nolongerthere 2y ago
  Yup I have mild ADHD and as the day wears on I find it harder to do this subconsciously. I need to start making a conscious effort to focus only on the person I’m speaking with and not the cross conversation happening at the same table.

glandium 2y ago

I can sometimes do that with instruments in music. Never for people.

KaiserPro 2y ago

> Do people genuinely have that ability Indeed! however like visual depth perception, not everyone has it. The human ear has a load of bits that allow removing noise from the signal. (I don't have a block diagram, sorry!) In theory one should be able to locate a noise in 3D. You can test this by getting someone to hide your phone and then ring it. if you have 3d sound perception you should be able to work out if the phone is behind/front/up/down.That forms part of the "steering" ability. Then there is filtering the noises that you don't want. Music is can be a good test for this, how many instruments played on this track, what instruments were they, what were the lyrics, etc. Being able to do this requires that you be able to filter out noises that you don't like. Again like all human senses, there are levels of ability, and in some cases can be improved with "exercise" But, hearing what people are saying against a loud background is really really hard, so don't worry too much. Plus voices have specific human social encoding, so they can be affected disproportionally