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Genocide as a legal term isn't just reserved for killing the entire population. Destroying the culture of a population is also genocide, and there is a greater

by jemmyw 2y ago

Genocide as a legal term isn't just reserved for killing the entire population. Destroying the culture of a population is also genocide, and there is a greater argument that has happened given how much of Gaza has been levelled. The food situation could also constitute genocide if Israel is purposefully preventing aid supplies. There could be an intent to make Gaza unviable. > If Hamas had the capability to up-scale it's operations, it likely would have attempted to fulfill these aspects of its covenant and eradicate all jews. Both sides are perpetuating the hate for the next generation.

firesteelrain 2y ago
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- mlazos 2y ago
  Haven’t heard of one good reason why aid via land crossings is being prevented from entering Gaza. The US literally built a pier to deliver aid when this is not an island country. Mass starvation, transferring of population (settlers in the West Bank) against a single culture/people are all forms of genocide. Documented cases of hospitals being destroyed, snipers killing people seeking medical care are all happening, if this isn’t genocide I don’t know what is.
  - Protostome 2y ago
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    - Chris2048 2y ago
      enemy population? I thought this wasn't war? It's only Hamas that's the enemy, right?
      - Protostome 2y ago
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    - muddi900 2y ago
      World food program disagrees with you on starvation: https://apnews.com/article/gaza-famine-world-food-program-israel-hamas-war-476941bf2dc259f85a706408b2a665ff https://apnews.com/article/gaza-famine-world-food-program-is... Also whi documented Hospitals being used for military purposes? I have heard this hasbara point for months and have not seen any real eveidence.
      - firesteelrain 2y ago
        https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital...
        runarberg 2y ago
        We are still waiting for the evidence they claimed to have for that, or even the clarification on what these alleged evidence even was. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/03/hamas-gaza-israel-alshifa-tunnels/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/03/... Note that investigations from journalists have serious issues with these allegations, and have shown it is highly implausible this evidence exists, or shows the allegations to be true. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hospital-gaza-hamas-israel/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hos... Also note that this raid severely hampered the operations of the hospital, but didn’t completely destroy it. However, since this statement in January, there was another raid at the end of March, and that raid put the hospital completely out of service. If the first raid destroyed the supposed command center under the hospital, why did they do a second raid? And why did they leave behind mass graves? And where is the evidence for the supposed command center?
  - firesteelrain 2y ago
    “ According to United Nations data, the number of aid trucks entering Gaza hit a peak last week since October: A total of 1,674 aid trucks entered Gaza through the Kerem Shalom and Rafah crossings” - May 10 “ Egypt, which plays an important role in facilitating aid collection and delivery, has complicated matters by resisting sending trucks to Kerem Shalom, according to several Western and Israeli officials;” Rafha crossing remains closed. Northern Gaza has some land based aid. There were air drops. Pier recently broke and will take a week to fix and get back online.
- brabel 2y ago
  According to the legal professionals overseeing this, you're wrong: https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192 https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192 The court accepted the case and ordered Israel to take all measures possible to prevent genocidal acts to continue: https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240524-ord-01-00-en.pdf https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192... Since then, Israel ignored the order and arguably even intensified its attacks. It seems clear now that the legal institution responsible for evaluating whether genocide is happening believes Israel is indeed committing genocide.
  - firesteelrain 2y ago
    How much of that is politicized?

by jemmyw 2y ago

firesteelrain 2y ago

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mlazos 2y ago
Haven’t heard of one good reason why aid via land crossings is being prevented from entering Gaza. The US literally built a pier to deliver aid when this is not an island country. Mass starvation, transferring of population (settlers in the West Bank) against a single culture/people are all forms of genocide. Documented cases of hospitals being destroyed, snipers killing people seeking medical care are all happening, if this isn’t genocide I don’t know what is.
- Protostome 2y ago
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  - Chris2048 2y ago
    enemy population? I thought this wasn't war? It's only Hamas that's the enemy, right?
    - Protostome 2y ago
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  - muddi900 2y ago
    World food program disagrees with you on starvation: https://apnews.com/article/gaza-famine-world-food-program-israel-hamas-war-476941bf2dc259f85a706408b2a665ff https://apnews.com/article/gaza-famine-world-food-program-is... Also whi documented Hospitals being used for military purposes? I have heard this hasbara point for months and have not seen any real eveidence.
    - firesteelrain 2y ago
      https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital...
      - runarberg 2y ago
        We are still waiting for the evidence they claimed to have for that, or even the clarification on what these alleged evidence even was. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/03/hamas-gaza-israel-alshifa-tunnels/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/01/03/... Note that investigations from journalists have serious issues with these allegations, and have shown it is highly implausible this evidence exists, or shows the allegations to be true. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hospital-gaza-hamas-israel/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hos... Also note that this raid severely hampered the operations of the hospital, but didn’t completely destroy it. However, since this statement in January, there was another raid at the end of March, and that raid put the hospital completely out of service. If the first raid destroyed the supposed command center under the hospital, why did they do a second raid? And why did they leave behind mass graves? And where is the evidence for the supposed command center?
- firesteelrain 2y ago
  “ According to United Nations data, the number of aid trucks entering Gaza hit a peak last week since October: A total of 1,674 aid trucks entered Gaza through the Kerem Shalom and Rafah crossings” - May 10 “ Egypt, which plays an important role in facilitating aid collection and delivery, has complicated matters by resisting sending trucks to Kerem Shalom, according to several Western and Israeli officials;” Rafha crossing remains closed. Northern Gaza has some land based aid. There were air drops. Pier recently broke and will take a week to fix and get back online.
brabel 2y ago
According to the legal professionals overseeing this, you're wrong: https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192 https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192 The court accepted the case and ordered Israel to take all measures possible to prevent genocidal acts to continue: https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240524-ord-01-00-en.pdf https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192... Since then, Israel ignored the order and arguably even intensified its attacks. It seems clear now that the legal institution responsible for evaluating whether genocide is happening believes Israel is indeed committing genocide.
- firesteelrain 2y ago
  How much of that is politicized?