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> to teach Aboriginal and Western science concepts This distinction seems odd; science doesn’t change depending on culture or race.

by nomilk 2y ago

defrost 2y ago
Now read the same sentence with a different clumping.
bdowling 2y ago
Science does change based on ideological beliefs. See, e.g., https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
snowpid 2y ago
Many religious belief dont hold in front of modern science. In Western world it was the evolution theory and Aborigines have other problems. By labelling science 'Western', people try to equalise both. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81tauranga_M%C4%81ori#Relationship_to_institutional_science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81tauranga_M%C4%81ori#Rel...
koziserek 2y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_...
interactivecode 2y ago
Considering how much of "science" has been used to devalue anyone non-western, the distinction is not odd, it's actually really important. Don't forget that anyone who does science has their own personal lens they use to look at results or steer future research areas or even blatantly skew outcomes of research. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-85155-2_8 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-85155-2_...
- fl0ki 2y ago
  Attempts at compensating for the westernism of science generally have not gone well. A notable example is Lysenkoism. The USSR was generally pretty good at science -- it wouldn't have even been in the space race if it wasn't -- and it was worst precisely where it prioritized ideology over methodology. Let's please not repeat the same mistake, especially not in the actual west. If new science genuinely corrects old science, fantastic, everyone benefits. That should be through the scientific method itself, not through ideological critique.

> to teach Aboriginal and Western science concepts This distinction seems odd; science doesn’t change depending on culture or race.

by nomilk 2y ago

> to teach Aboriginal and Western science concepts This distinction seems odd; science doesn’t change depending on culture or race.

defrost 2y ago

Now read the same sentence with a different clumping.

bdowling 2y ago

Science does change based on ideological beliefs. See, e.g., https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

snowpid 2y ago

Many religious belief dont hold in front of modern science. In Western world it was the evolution theory and Aborigines have other problems. By labelling science 'Western', people try to equalise both. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81tauranga_M%C4%81ori#Relationship_to_institutional_science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81tauranga_M%C4%81ori#Rel...

koziserek 2y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_...

interactivecode 2y ago

Considering how much of "science" has been used to devalue anyone non-western, the distinction is not odd, it's actually really important. Don't forget that anyone who does science has their own personal lens they use to look at results or steer future research areas or even blatantly skew outcomes of research. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-85155-2_8 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-85155-2_...

fl0ki 2y ago
Attempts at compensating for the westernism of science generally have not gone well. A notable example is Lysenkoism. The USSR was generally pretty good at science -- it wouldn't have even been in the space race if it wasn't -- and it was worst precisely where it prioritized ideology over methodology. Let's please not repeat the same mistake, especially not in the actual west. If new science genuinely corrects old science, fantastic, everyone benefits. That should be through the scientific method itself, not through ideological critique.