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And we almost all will be where you are now, if we live long enough. If you can pick out audio from individuals, you could also send it through speech recognit

And we almost all will be where you are now, if we live long enough. If you can pick out audio from individuals, you could also send it through speech recognition and subtitle real world conversations for when hearing is worse or not there at all. But it really needs mobile devices capable of doing the processing locally, as I think round trips to the cloud would make it less useful or potentially useless.

thfuran 2y ago
>and subtitle real world conversations for when hearing is worse or not there at all. Or for when you don't speak that language.
fragmede 2y ago
How much latency is acceptable? If you're off in the woods somewhere far from the cloud, sure, but it's less than 10ms to ping Google.com for me, and if the speech-to-text engine runs faster than realtime, I don't see why processing remotely is a problem. 10 ms is nothing. Still, the transcription part is already here today. The Google Translate app has a transcribe app that does this (runs locally; does not do magic AI "pick voice out from crowd"). My father-in-law has been using it for years. When I'm in a loud environment, the app I use on iOS is called Big, which just displays large text on the screen. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/make-it-big/id479282584 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/make-it-big/id479282584
- RussianCow 2y ago
  10ms on a wifi connection is exceptional; on a cellular connection it's unheard of. I normally get 70-80ms on 5G, which is well past the threshold for realtime—and that's with a solid connection.
- withinboredom 2y ago
  > If you're off in the woods somewhere far from the cloud, sure, but it's less than 10ms to ping Google.com for me I'm in one of the biggest cities of my current country, and the RTT to google from me is 87-91ms. Well over 4 million people live within 100km of me, so I suspect they see similar latencies. On my cell, I see 191-207ms.
  - jeffhuys 2y ago
    That’s a shockingly high latency for a major city! Getting 3ms to google.com here, big city in the Netherlands. Probably close to a data center.
    - withinboredom 2y ago
      Also in a big city in the Netherlands, but I just blame ziggo. We're getting fiber in my neighborhood ... "soon" ... so we'll see how it is once that happens. Looks like a good 60ms is nothing but buffer-bloat in the router, as when pinging directly from the router, the RTT is much less.
jiehong 2y ago
Latency or not, for privacy reasons.
Terr_ 2y ago
> And we almost all will be where you are now, if we live long enough. And given the US healthcare system, somebody is gonna take all our money too, one way or another. :P
giantg2 2y ago
"But it really needs mobile devices capable of doing the processing locally" I would think this shouldn't be a problem as the correct hardware gets adopted in phones. As it stands now, you could probably run it on a Coral USB accelerator and battery run Pi (just an example of hardware, obviously we don't have the code).

thfuran 2y ago

>and subtitle real world conversations for when hearing is worse or not there at all. Or for when you don't speak that language.

fragmede 2y ago

How much latency is acceptable? If you're off in the woods somewhere far from the cloud, sure, but it's less than 10ms to ping Google.com for me, and if the speech-to-text engine runs faster than realtime, I don't see why processing remotely is a problem. 10 ms is nothing. Still, the transcription part is already here today. The Google Translate app has a transcribe app that does this (runs locally; does not do magic AI "pick voice out from crowd"). My father-in-law has been using it for years. When I'm in a loud environment, the app I use on iOS is called Big, which just displays large text on the screen. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/make-it-big/id479282584 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/make-it-big/id479282584

RussianCow 2y ago
10ms on a wifi connection is exceptional; on a cellular connection it's unheard of. I normally get 70-80ms on 5G, which is well past the threshold for realtime—and that's with a solid connection.
withinboredom 2y ago
> If you're off in the woods somewhere far from the cloud, sure, but it's less than 10ms to ping Google.com for me I'm in one of the biggest cities of my current country, and the RTT to google from me is 87-91ms. Well over 4 million people live within 100km of me, so I suspect they see similar latencies. On my cell, I see 191-207ms.
- jeffhuys 2y ago
  That’s a shockingly high latency for a major city! Getting 3ms to google.com here, big city in the Netherlands. Probably close to a data center.
  - withinboredom 2y ago
    Also in a big city in the Netherlands, but I just blame ziggo. We're getting fiber in my neighborhood ... "soon" ... so we'll see how it is once that happens. Looks like a good 60ms is nothing but buffer-bloat in the router, as when pinging directly from the router, the RTT is much less.

jiehong 2y ago

Latency or not, for privacy reasons.

Terr_ 2y ago

> And we almost all will be where you are now, if we live long enough. And given the US healthcare system, somebody is gonna take all our money too, one way or another. :P

giantg2 2y ago

"But it really needs mobile devices capable of doing the processing locally" I would think this shouldn't be a problem as the correct hardware gets adopted in phones. As it stands now, you could probably run it on a Coral USB accelerator and battery run Pi (just an example of hardware, obviously we don't have the code).