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the original vaccine was a live virus, and the only way to grow more of it was to infect people and then harvest it from the pox on their bodies. So many genera
by jes5199 2y ago
the original vaccine was a live virus, and the only way to grow more of it was to infect people and then harvest it from the pox on their bodies. So many generations of this vaccine virus were passed around this way.
For decades everyone believed it was cowpox, another common virus, but after a while scientists noticed it wasn’t actually cowpox - and modern generic studies show that it doesn’t match any known virus
- alexvoda 2y agoAll of what you said goes against common knowledge of the history of the vaccine. You will have to provide solid sources for your claims in order to not appear as a conspiracy theory peddler. What you mentioned in the first paragraph is not vaccination, it is called variolation. It predates vaccination by a large margin and was far more dangerous.
- ClumsyPilot 2y ago> a conspiracy theory peddler. What conspiracy? It’s a theory of lost knowledge / confusion, but no one is conspiring with anyone.
- boxed 2y agoHe asked for a citation. Please provide one.
- moomin 2y agoOkay, I just jumped down a rabbit hole trying to figure out what OP might mean. I think they’ve got it sideways. I think they’re talking about vaccinia, a virus related to cowpox (and smallpox) that form the basis of modern smallpox vaccines. The origin of the virus is, entertainingly, lost to time due to poor record keeping. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccinia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccinia There’s also “kinepox”, but I _think_ that’s just a different method of cowpox vaccine delivery.
- jes5199 2y agoI commented with links to wikipedia’s relevant sections
- Thorrez 2y agoIf scientists found out that it wasn't cowpox and then conspired to keep that fact secret, or conspired to say "we all knew it wasn't cowpox from the beginning", that would be a conspiracy.
- jes5199 2y agowikipedia: “From 1796 to the 1880s, the vaccine was transmitted from one person to another through arm-to-arm vaccination.” (Variolation used real smallpox, arm-to-arm used the vaccine virus instead) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine#Types https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine#Types “As medical researchers subjected viruses to serial passage, inadequate recordkeeping resulted in the creation of laboratory strains with unclear origins.[95]: 4 By the late 19th century, it was unknown whether the vaccine originated from cowpox, horsepox, or an attenuated strain of smallpox.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine#Origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine#Origin