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Exactly. If he hadn’t been under the influence then the door latch system wouldn’t have had a defective design >The suit blamed the “propensity of the vehicle

Exactly. If he hadn’t been under the influence then the door latch system wouldn’t have had a defective design >The suit blamed the “propensity of the vehicle to catch fire, as well as the defective design of the door latch system entrapping him in the vehicle.”

akira2501 2y ago
And if he had just been a passenger and the driver was sober?
- Terr_ 2y ago
  Not parent-poster, but I did a bit more digging since (the linked article is terribly incomplete) and found out that not only did the driver also die, but the passenger was also tested (posthumously?) as being over the legal BAC limit. [0] https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/08/tesla-model-s-crash-investigation-drunken-driving-indianapolis/97597708/ https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/08/tesla-m...
Terr_ 2y ago
> If he hadn’t been under the influence then the door latch system wouldn’t have had a defective design So... Poe's Law here. I can't tell if this is a sarcastic comment pointing out that a defective design remains defective even if someone is drunk, or whether this is a serious comment implying it wasn't really defective in normal circumstances. In any case, the person who was trapped-and-died was the passenger, and we don't know if or how-much they were drunk. The driver survived... or else they're making a lawsuit from beyond the grave.
- Terr_ 2y ago
  Correction since I can't edit: Both driver and passenger died and the plaintiff(s) do not include the driver. That said, I blame this on the linked-article being crap: Despite discussing the passenger's death, it never says any other person in the car died, which normally means they survived. Instead, the driver died on the scene and the passenger later in a hospital [0]. More digging shows driver and passenger were (probably posthumously) tested at 0.21 and 0.17 BAC respectively. [1] [0] https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2016/11/03/2-killed-fiery-tesla-crash-near-downtown/93227456/ https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2016/11/03/2-kille... [1] https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/08/tesla-model-s-crash-investigation-drunken-driving-indianapolis/97597708/ https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/08/tesla-m...

akira2501 2y ago

And if he had just been a passenger and the driver was sober?

Terr_ 2y ago
Not parent-poster, but I did a bit more digging since (the linked article is terribly incomplete) and found out that not only did the driver also die, but the passenger was also tested (posthumously?) as being over the legal BAC limit. [0] https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/08/tesla-model-s-crash-investigation-drunken-driving-indianapolis/97597708/ https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/08/tesla-m...

Terr_ 2y ago

> If he hadn’t been under the influence then the door latch system wouldn’t have had a defective design So... Poe's Law here. I can't tell if this is a sarcastic comment pointing out that a defective design remains defective even if someone is drunk, or whether this is a serious comment implying it wasn't really defective in normal circumstances. In any case, the person who was trapped-and-died was the passenger, and we don't know if or how-much they were drunk. The driver survived... or else they're making a lawsuit from beyond the grave.

Terr_ 2y ago
Correction since I can't edit: Both driver and passenger died and the plaintiff(s) do not include the driver. That said, I blame this on the linked-article being crap: Despite discussing the passenger's death, it never says any other person in the car died, which normally means they survived. Instead, the driver died on the scene and the passenger later in a hospital [0]. More digging shows driver and passenger were (probably posthumously) tested at 0.21 and 0.17 BAC respectively. [1] [0] https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2016/11/03/2-killed-fiery-tesla-crash-near-downtown/93227456/ https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2016/11/03/2-kille... [1] https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/08/tesla-model-s-crash-investigation-drunken-driving-indianapolis/97597708/ https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/08/tesla-m...