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For people who do not want to wait for multiple Twitter spinners and multiple login and cookie popups, the content is: " My commitment: - We will never seek v

by nh2 2y ago

For people who do not want to wait for multiple Twitter spinners and multiple login and cookie popups, the content is: " My commitment: - We will never seek victory in a just case against us, even if we will probably win. - We will never surrender/settle an unjust case against us, even if we will probably lose. "

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recursive 2y ago
Posted when?
- AlexandrB 2y ago
  May 20, 2022
  - slg 2y ago
    It could have been posted May 20, 2024 and I don't think it would have any real meaning. Musk has zero credibility with this sort of thing regardless of when it was posted.
    - bboygravity 2y ago
      Got anything to substantiate this?
      - TheAlchemist 2y ago
        This website does a pretty good job: https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/
      - cottsak 2y ago
        First glance at that website https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ and I find this: "September 2014 They will be a factor of 10 safer than a person [at the wheel] in a six-year time frame" Which you can mostly write off with this data https://electrek.co/2024/05/22/tesla-finally-releases-autopilot-safety-data-after-more-than-a-year/ https://electrek.co/2024/05/22/tesla-finally-releases-autopi... So maybe FSD isn't complete, but Tesla Autopilot has made a measurable improvement to fatalities and injuries on roads. The data shows this clearly.
        Veserv 2y ago
        Except for the part where their “safety reports” are aggressively and intentionally falsified to push product. They intentionally deceive by comparing extremely non-comparable numbers while avoiding making any necessary and basic adjustments that harm their story. Of their many lies, they use pyrotechnic (airbag) deployments for their own numbers, but compare against all crashes. The NHTSA investigation [1] into Tesla ADAS crashes points out how publicly available data, that Tesla has easy access to and that any competent statistician can interpret, indicates pyrotechnic deployment occurs in only ~18% of crashes. Just that single factor alone shows Tesla has failed to disclose a literal 5x adjustment, let alone the other adjustments that have no doubt been concealed or ignored to avoid learning inconvenient and unmarketable truths. Their intentional concealment of 5x errors shows their data analysis is entirely faulty and untrustworthy and has been for years. [1] https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2022/INCR-EA22002-14496.pdf https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2022/INCR-EA22002-14496.pdf
      - dmitrygr 2y ago
        https://elonmusk.today/ https://elonmusk.today/
ClassyJacket 2y ago
Why does Tesla not ban him from making promises in tweets? Is it because they help the stock price more than they hurt it?
- fragmede 2y ago
  You try telling Elon Musk not to post stuff. He ended up being forced to buy Twitter and pay an SEC fine because he tweets too much. He's going to post whatever he feels like, no matter what you, or anyone at Tesla, or the SEC says.
  - serf 2y ago
    "He's not going to listen to anything anyone at the SEC says!" "...but he will pay their fines." what a renegade!
    - userbinator 2y ago
      "A fine is just an overpriced cost."

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recursive 2y ago

Posted when?

AlexandrB 2y ago
May 20, 2022
- slg 2y ago
  It could have been posted May 20, 2024 and I don't think it would have any real meaning. Musk has zero credibility with this sort of thing regardless of when it was posted.
  - bboygravity 2y ago
    Got anything to substantiate this?
    - TheAlchemist 2y ago
      This website does a pretty good job: https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/
    - cottsak 2y ago
      First glance at that website https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ and I find this: "September 2014 They will be a factor of 10 safer than a person [at the wheel] in a six-year time frame" Which you can mostly write off with this data https://electrek.co/2024/05/22/tesla-finally-releases-autopilot-safety-data-after-more-than-a-year/ https://electrek.co/2024/05/22/tesla-finally-releases-autopi... So maybe FSD isn't complete, but Tesla Autopilot has made a measurable improvement to fatalities and injuries on roads. The data shows this clearly.
      - Veserv 2y ago
        Except for the part where their “safety reports” are aggressively and intentionally falsified to push product. They intentionally deceive by comparing extremely non-comparable numbers while avoiding making any necessary and basic adjustments that harm their story. Of their many lies, they use pyrotechnic (airbag) deployments for their own numbers, but compare against all crashes. The NHTSA investigation [1] into Tesla ADAS crashes points out how publicly available data, that Tesla has easy access to and that any competent statistician can interpret, indicates pyrotechnic deployment occurs in only ~18% of crashes. Just that single factor alone shows Tesla has failed to disclose a literal 5x adjustment, let alone the other adjustments that have no doubt been concealed or ignored to avoid learning inconvenient and unmarketable truths. Their intentional concealment of 5x errors shows their data analysis is entirely faulty and untrustworthy and has been for years. [1] https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2022/INCR-EA22002-14496.pdf https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2022/INCR-EA22002-14496.pdf
    - dmitrygr 2y ago
      https://elonmusk.today/ https://elonmusk.today/

ClassyJacket 2y ago

Why does Tesla not ban him from making promises in tweets? Is it because they help the stock price more than they hurt it?

fragmede 2y ago
You try telling Elon Musk not to post stuff. He ended up being forced to buy Twitter and pay an SEC fine because he tweets too much. He's going to post whatever he feels like, no matter what you, or anyone at Tesla, or the SEC says.
- serf 2y ago
  "He's not going to listen to anything anyone at the SEC says!" "...but he will pay their fines." what a renegade!
  - userbinator 2y ago
    "A fine is just an overpriced cost."