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When I heard about this I sent the note below to legal@fb.com. -- To: Meta / Facebook Re: AI training I am a user of your platform in <Country>. I’ve recen

When I heard about this I sent the note below to legal@fb.com. -- To: Meta / Facebook Re: AI training I am a user of your platform in <Country>. I’ve recently been given to understand that you plan to start utilizing my personal data (photos, posts, etc) to train your AI models. I am writing to make it clear that I DO NOT consent to this use of my information. I tried to find a setting on your website to “opt out” and have been unsuccessful. Be advised if you utilize any of my data for training without my consent, I will litigate to the full extent of the law, including seeking an order to compel the destruction of any resulting models, weights, data, source code, etc. that has been generated from it. Should such an order be granted it could be a very expensive consequence for Meta given the likely size of the resulting dataset that would have been “tainted” with inputs from my personal data. Further, I strongly advise you make this an “opt in” process for users – in addition to mitigating your legal risk, it’s simply the right thing to do. Expecting that you already somehow have permission for such an invasive use of your users’ data and constructing the feature as “opt out” is, frankly, contemptible.

AndyKelley 2y ago
Lame half measure. Delete your account instead.
- rkagerer 2y ago
  That's a fair criticism. I'd love to delete my account, unfortunately some groups I'm a member of continue to insist on using the platform for carrying out business. :-(
  - mikae1 2y ago
    https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/510058597920541 https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/510058597920541 says https://www.pcworld.com/article/2343263/facebook-wants-to-use-your-posts-for-ai-training-how-to-object.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/2343263/facebook-wants-to-us...
threeseed 2y ago
I can imagine their in-house counsel having quite a laugh at this. Your threat has about as much weight as a child hitting a supertanker. Do you really think Meta is going to stop collecting data based on your advice ?
- rkagerer 2y ago
  1) They can laugh all they want. My aim was to make it crystal clear and on record I do not consent. 2) I understand your reaction, and that's an amusing analogy, but it's presumptive to assume I lack means to follow through. 3) I agree one email is a drop in the bucket. If you're similarly appalled I encourage you to act on your principal and signal it's unacceptable, in whatever way you choose. Even sending a tweet is better than apathy. Large tech companies make transparency 180's all the time after realizing too late they hatched a PR turd. Enough of an uproar over a variety of channels could conceivably have some effect. I agree they're unlikely to abandon training altogether, and I'm not advocating that, but a clear and working Opt-Out button would be a good start.

AndyKelley 2y ago

Lame half measure. Delete your account instead.

rkagerer 2y ago
That's a fair criticism. I'd love to delete my account, unfortunately some groups I'm a member of continue to insist on using the platform for carrying out business. :-(
- mikae1 2y ago
  https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/510058597920541 https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/510058597920541 says https://www.pcworld.com/article/2343263/facebook-wants-to-use-your-posts-for-ai-training-how-to-object.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/2343263/facebook-wants-to-us...

threeseed 2y ago

I can imagine their in-house counsel having quite a laugh at this. Your threat has about as much weight as a child hitting a supertanker. Do you really think Meta is going to stop collecting data based on your advice ?

rkagerer 2y ago
1) They can laugh all they want. My aim was to make it crystal clear and on record I do not consent. 2) I understand your reaction, and that's an amusing analogy, but it's presumptive to assume I lack means to follow through. 3) I agree one email is a drop in the bucket. If you're similarly appalled I encourage you to act on your principal and signal it's unacceptable, in whatever way you choose. Even sending a tweet is better than apathy. Large tech companies make transparency 180's all the time after realizing too late they hatched a PR turd. Enough of an uproar over a variety of channels could conceivably have some effect. I agree they're unlikely to abandon training altogether, and I'm not advocating that, but a clear and working Opt-Out button would be a good start.