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> I won't trust no tracking if it's non free. Meanwhile, lots of non-mobile free software includes tracking (telemetry) these days. The cynic in me has had to

> I won't trust no tracking if it's non free. Meanwhile, lots of non-mobile free software includes tracking (telemetry) these days. The cynic in me has had to switch to I won't trust no tracking if it's not enforced by a security boundary.

jraph 2y ago
Which free software does this without asking / telling the user? Especially free software that tells you no tracking? But yes, free software is not a guarantee against tracking. It only allows auditing and be modified.
- yencabulator 2y ago
  Here's a sampling of stuff I've semi-recently encountered on Github that all spy on you by default. For some, it's undocumented, for others it's a minor subsection in the docs. (Some of them are source-available not free, I didn't keep track as I collected the URLs.) https://github.com/zed-industries/zed https://github.com/zed-industries/zed https://github.com/microsoft/vscode https://github.com/microsoft/vscode https://github.com/keystonejs/keystone https://github.com/keystonejs/keystone https://github.com/meilisearch/meilisearch https://github.com/meilisearch/meilisearch https://github.com/hasura/graphql-engine https://github.com/hasura/graphql-engine https://github.com/manticoresoftware/manticoresearch/ https://github.com/manticoresoftware/manticoresearch/ https://github.com/coder/code-server https://github.com/coder/code-server https://github.com/loft-sh/devpod https://github.com/loft-sh/devpod https://github.com/quickwit-oss/quickwit https://github.com/quickwit-oss/quickwit https://github.com/rilldata/rill-developer/ https://github.com/rilldata/rill-developer/ https://github.com/hocus-dev/hocus https://github.com/hocus-dev/hocus https://github.com/firezone/firezone https://github.com/firezone/firezone Here's a write-up of how bad it gets -- it's pretty obnoxious: https://www.roboleary.net/tools/2022/04/20/vscode-telemetry.html https://www.roboleary.net/tools/2022/04/20/vscode-telemetry....
  - jraph 2y ago
    VSCode is proprietary. That's why the difference between Codium and VSCode matters. Actually, IIRC the code from the ms repo does not do telemetry, they add it to the binary they distribute.

jraph 2y ago

Which free software does this without asking / telling the user? Especially free software that tells you no tracking? But yes, free software is not a guarantee against tracking. It only allows auditing and be modified.

yencabulator 2y ago
Here's a sampling of stuff I've semi-recently encountered on Github that all spy on you by default. For some, it's undocumented, for others it's a minor subsection in the docs. (Some of them are source-available not free, I didn't keep track as I collected the URLs.) https://github.com/zed-industries/zed https://github.com/zed-industries/zed https://github.com/microsoft/vscode https://github.com/microsoft/vscode https://github.com/keystonejs/keystone https://github.com/keystonejs/keystone https://github.com/meilisearch/meilisearch https://github.com/meilisearch/meilisearch https://github.com/hasura/graphql-engine https://github.com/hasura/graphql-engine https://github.com/manticoresoftware/manticoresearch/ https://github.com/manticoresoftware/manticoresearch/ https://github.com/coder/code-server https://github.com/coder/code-server https://github.com/loft-sh/devpod https://github.com/loft-sh/devpod https://github.com/quickwit-oss/quickwit https://github.com/quickwit-oss/quickwit https://github.com/rilldata/rill-developer/ https://github.com/rilldata/rill-developer/ https://github.com/hocus-dev/hocus https://github.com/hocus-dev/hocus https://github.com/firezone/firezone https://github.com/firezone/firezone Here's a write-up of how bad it gets -- it's pretty obnoxious: https://www.roboleary.net/tools/2022/04/20/vscode-telemetry.html https://www.roboleary.net/tools/2022/04/20/vscode-telemetry....
- jraph 2y ago
  VSCode is proprietary. That's why the difference between Codium and VSCode matters. Actually, IIRC the code from the ms repo does not do telemetry, they add it to the binary they distribute.